Bobs4Runner

Is there an alternative to OME N91SC (cheaper)? My wife has given me the go to lift the 4Runner, but to a certain price. I'm going with 883 coils in the front and 891 coils in the rear.

Thanks
Bob

brian2sun

$699 (no tax plus about $50 for shipping) isn't too bad for 883s/891s and all 4 shocks (N91SCs and N86Cs) from toytec.com. I ordered that exact set-up last week - can't wait! They do have some other shocks to choose from, but the not with this package deal (I don't think).

The 883s are for about 100 lbs extra weight in the front. Do you have a ARB or similar bumper and/or a winch? Otherwise I recommend going with the 881s.

Bobs4Runner

I was tryin to see if there was another strut people were using. No, I do now have anything bumper/winch wise. Thinking about a WAAG bumper protector type thing, but thats it. I emailed them and thats what they recommened was 883s. I've been researching it and its what most people are going with.

Thanks
Bob

Elton

Bilstein 5100 ?

Elton

i have the n91s and 882s with stock bumpers its really not that bad little firmer than stock

emptypockets

x's 2. The N91SC's and 882 coils gave me ~3" of lift over stock and match perfectly with my LC coils in the rear. IIRC, the OME shocks are about the only ones long enough to fit with the 882/883 coils, but I never researched Billstein either.

ToyTec Lifts

We do recommend that you use the OME struts with the OME coils. They work well together. I wouldn't cheap out on the shocks to save a few bucks, you'll regret it.

Bobs4Runner

Darrick, If I'm not going with a ARB front bumper type, but going with a WAAG Tube type bumper (maybe like 40-50lbs) should I go with 881/spacer or 883's? I'm getting the diff drop, but don't want to add anymore needed stress to the CV joints.

Thanks
Bob

ToyTec Lifts

the 881's can handle 50 pounds okay.
You should be just fine.

emptypockets

If I had a choice, I'd always go with coils versus coils and a spacer. Spacers are known for sagging coils. Maybe OME coils are a little less prone to sagging than OEM, but why take the chance? My stock coil/2.5" Daystar kit eventually sagged the springs enough that in the end, the spacer kit ended up only lifting my rig ~1.25". I removed the spacers and went with coils all around and have been very pleased.

If an 881 with spacer gives you the same lift as a bare 882 or 883 coil, why not just do the coil?

edit: Pick up a 1" diff drop kit just as cheap CV insurance.

Bobs4Runner

Another question, I might go with 16x8 or 17x8 or find FJ rims. Will I need wheel spacers to move the wheel out? If so, what size?

Bob

Elton

if you do get new 16x8 wheels get the right back spacing wont need spacers

brian2sun

I say use that $$ for good quality shocks to go with your lift. Get the "bling" later. Not sure about the backspacing on FJ rims, but stock 4runner rims are 4.625" to give you some reference. Don't know if you'll need spacers or not because that really depends on what size tire you plan to run with the new lift.

Bobs4Runner

My bad, I had a mistype there, not FJ rims, but I plan on looking for old school LC rims. I found a set on ebay...just need to make sure its a legit deal and that they will fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

SkidPalace

Can somebody explain to me why spacers sag coils? I have no experience in this arena, but I can not comprehend why a spacer inserted on top of a coil is any different than the coil resting on the top plate.
I can understand a WHEEL spacer causing sag because by extending the wheel out you are, in physics terms, extending the lever arm. As Archimedes said, "give me a long enough lever, and I shall move the world".
I see a lot of "I heard the spacers sag..." but not much of " my truck drooped an inch within a year of using spacers". Does anyone have real proof that lift spacers fatigue your springs or is this just an urban myth possibly fueled by - no offense Darrick - salespeople selling expensive lift systems or end users justifiying their purchase of full lift kits?
Don't get me wrong, I feel the right thing to do is a proper coil/shock setup, but for those who are looking for a cheap light duty or cosmetic lift, are spacers really that bad?

crackiswack

There are 2 types of spacers, ones that go between the coil and top plate, and the type that go on top of the top plate. The ones that go inbetween the coil and top plate raise the vehicle by increasing the preload on the spring, causing the spring to be in a more compressed state while resting since the the spacer limits the amount of room the spring can expand into. This causes sagging over time

brian2sun

It's not a myth. I just spent $750 on all new coils and shocks because my Daystar spacer lift sagged 1-1.5" in less than a year. The reason spacers ruin your stock coils is because when you wheel it and flex it out, the springs then get compressed way more than they ever were intended to compress. The spacers just squish the springs more and that's what makes them lose their "spring".

SkidPalace

Now there's an explanation that makes sense. Thanks.

brian2sun

You're welcome.