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Originally Posted by Localmotion
phillips vision plus works the best for me
I put them in my brothers Tundra and parents 4Runner too. They love them!
I have not seen them for sale in the US so buy them here:
http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/
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There is a good, long, writeup on Daniel Stern's Auto Lighting web site:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html
That is where I got most of my information from, in fact his table of light output vs. voltage shows an even more severe dropoff at lowered voltages. I was using a basic square law (watts=volts*volts/resistance) but in practice the incandescent lamp (halogen included) gets less efficient and converting current to light as the current or voltage drop off. Daniel's table takes this into account, so a ~2 volt drop (that I was seeing) results in only 1/2 the light output that you would see at full rated voltage.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html
That is where I got most of my information from, in fact his table of light output vs. voltage shows an even more severe dropoff at lowered voltages. I was using a basic square law (watts=volts*volts/resistance) but in practice the incandescent lamp (halogen included) gets less efficient and converting current to light as the current or voltage drop off. Daniel's table takes this into account, so a ~2 volt drop (that I was seeing) results in only 1/2 the light output that you would see at full rated voltage.
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I used to buy different types of bulbs until I realized bulbs cant get too bright if they arent HID's. So I purchased a 6000k phillips HID kit and I never went back to regular bulbs. These things are so bright that you dont use high beams.
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Originally Posted by Bigkahuna808
Im running the Gee Headlight boster system ($200), with a upgraded wire haness backing that ($40). To Raybrig White sonic bulbs ($120). Still not bright enough for me. I have the adjument knob set to 120 of 200+ and people think Im running with my high beams on.
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For that why didn't you just get a HID kit?
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Acording to the HTSA or somthing like that they banned the aftermarket sales of HID to the aftermarket. Thats if I rember right. I got everything from work, its not like I paid the full price. Thoes prices listed are around retail. Plus I recived top sales awards at work, so I get shopping sprees. Come to think about it, I spent like $50 for all that.
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They are no illegal if they didn't come standard on your car. Here in PA, it won't pass inspections and you can get into big trouble.
Or do they just fail headlight systems w/ no high/low beam functions?
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http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...uperwhite.html
i can actually vouch for this. i had cheapo (but good lookin' and long lasting) white bulbs off ebay for the last 11 months. i just sort of got used to the fact that they were dimmer, but hadnt realize how much dimmer till i recently installed my silverstars.
the silverstars are more yellowish and dont look as nice, but produce FAR more light and are great bulbs so far. i recommend them, though i may switch over to a whiter bulb (piaa?) because i really prefer that look!
i can actually vouch for this. i had cheapo (but good lookin' and long lasting) white bulbs off ebay for the last 11 months. i just sort of got used to the fact that they were dimmer, but hadnt realize how much dimmer till i recently installed my silverstars.
the silverstars are more yellowish and dont look as nice, but produce FAR more light and are great bulbs so far. i recommend them, though i may switch over to a whiter bulb (piaa?) because i really prefer that look!
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Originally Posted by Hilux Surf
Hey Jason, are you referring to ALL HID conversion kits? Are the inspectors keen enough to tell if the bulbs are over-wattage xenon-wannabe halogens, or HID converion kits, or OEM retrofit HID projectors?
Or do they just fail headlight systems w/ no high/low beam functions?
Or do they just fail headlight systems w/ no high/low beam functions?
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Originally Posted by lee
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...uperwhite.html
the silverstars are more yellowish and dont look as nice, but produce FAR more light and are great bulbs so far. i recommend them, though i may switch over to a whiter bulb (piaa?) because i really prefer that look!
the silverstars are more yellowish and dont look as nice, but produce FAR more light and are great bulbs so far. i recommend them, though i may switch over to a whiter bulb (piaa?) because i really prefer that look!
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Originally Posted by Jason B
Yes, both reasons here. But I'm pretty sure they have been banned all over?
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Originally Posted by Hilux Surf
Jason, thanks for responding. Here in MA where annual inspection stickers are required, inspectors only fail those headlights with no high beams. They will pass all headlights w/ 1) overwattage halogens, 2) HID conversion kits, 3) OEM retrofit HID components. Very often, it can be tough to tell accurately between #1 & 2, provided that now we have oversized (Fatboy) H4 halogen bulbs by IPF, headlight booster (Gee System), etc. All these latest gadgets bring halogen output closer & closer into the HID category.
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The Silverstar headlamps bulbs are pretty good and last much longer than the Piaas. Their H3 fog lamp bulbs, not so much. They suck. You're lucky to get like 4 months out of them. I'm really getting tired of spending $20 every 4-5 months on a fog lamp bulb. I may go back to stock there.
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PIAAs cost around $80-90 these usually last for about a year for must people. Save the cost for 3pairs and get HIDs!!!!! they will usually outlast your car/truck
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yea but HID's are illegal here, and we have to get our cars inspected in va, dont think it would pass. I was planning on getting hids, but dont want to risk a ticket.
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IPF Fatboy
Jason, are you really moving to MA? That'll be cool.
Any way, regarding overwattage H4, I can get you guys IPF Fatboy 80/60=190/150w halogens in 3090K. They run for $76/pr + S&H. PM me if interested. It's fatter & brighter than usual.
Specifications:
~ H4 12V 60/80W
~ 3090K
Features:
~ IPF's Most Powerful Upgrade Utilizing a Standard Wiring Harness
~ Uses an Exotic High Pressure Gas Mix Contained in a Huge Clear Bulb Envelope for Unrivalled Performance
~ Stabilizer Rod to Extend Life in Harsh Conditions
~ Easy Installation -Compatible with Most Modern Factory Wiring Looms and Resin Headlights
~ Available in Twin Pack
Performance:
~ Optical Equivalent to 190W Low Beam/150W High beam Output
Any way, regarding overwattage H4, I can get you guys IPF Fatboy 80/60=190/150w halogens in 3090K. They run for $76/pr + S&H. PM me if interested. It's fatter & brighter than usual.
Specifications:
~ H4 12V 60/80W
~ 3090K
Features:
~ IPF's Most Powerful Upgrade Utilizing a Standard Wiring Harness
~ Uses an Exotic High Pressure Gas Mix Contained in a Huge Clear Bulb Envelope for Unrivalled Performance
~ Stabilizer Rod to Extend Life in Harsh Conditions
~ Easy Installation -Compatible with Most Modern Factory Wiring Looms and Resin Headlights
~ Available in Twin Pack
Performance:
~ Optical Equivalent to 190W Low Beam/150W High beam Output
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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
Often a new headlight wiring harness can help as well. A simple check of the voltage drop across the headlight bulb itself is a good indicator. If it is not within 0.5 volts of the battery voltage, then the stock wiring is limiting the current to the light. Older wires and switches and higher wattage bulbs can all lead to increased voltage drops. I found my stock '85 headlights were only getting a little over 10 volts at the bulbs, resutling in a 40% loss of light. Adding an upgraded relay harness bumped it up to within a few tenths of a volt of the battery and much more light output:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...#WiringHarness
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...#WiringHarness