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01-02 4Runner How to Zero Point Calibrate your VSC system.
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This is the first time I have ever heard of this. Is this a common issue when lifting a 4runner?
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Yea its a common problem on 4Runners 01-02 (which are the ones with VSC system).
Most people don't realize its a problem because they are already used to the VSC being an annoyance. So after they put on a lift it becomes more common especially in 4WD but most don't ever realize the connection of the lift and the VSC system being more overly sensitive. The VSC system uses two sensors a steering angle sensor hooked to the steering wheel and a yaw rate sensor. The yaw rate sensor needs to know what the normal angle of the car is side to side, front to back and front left to right rear and left rear to front right. It needs to know this to know when the vehicle is yawing IE skidding. Because of this if you change the angles of the vehicles suspension it makes the yaw sensor out of calibration so it constantly thinks the vehicle is close to skidding or is skidding. So when it sees you turn the steering wheel and start to accelerate it thinks your in a full skid and goes nuts even though there is no skid at all. Also aside from suspension or body lifts, just normal sagging of the rear springs will throw the yaw sensor out of calibration. So it isn't really a problem per se its more like having to recalibrate your speedo when putting on bigger tires. FOG
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I've noticed it (or at least I think I have) kicks in more often, particularly on ice.
This is good stuff though, I didn't know there was a way to reset the Yaw Rate Sensor (that's ultimately what you're doing right?). Thanks for the info
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Cool, thanks for posting this. I had this done at the dealership before my lift when the VSC was just plain acting up, now it couldn't hurt to do it after the lift I'm sure.
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Then when we turn the ignition back on the VSC system looks at the current vehicle position and sets that as the new vertical axis center. FOG
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Great info FOG, it's now first on my list of things to do tomorrow.
Btw how level is your vehicle with the 883s in front. Mine was fine until I added the TJM and winch, now the front is down a bit.
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Eric mine is pretty level with the ARB and the 9.5XP winch which is really heavy way over kill winch. My only excuse for the winch was it was on sale hehe.
But as far as the front being lower, higher or level it's no big deal once you zero calibrate the yaw sensor. As far as its concerned your driving a stock 4runner after calibration. I was amazed at how much more mild manor the VSC system became after recalibration. Before I couldn't turn a corner at over 10-15 without it going nuts. Now I can drive like Evil Knievel and it doesn't act up unless I am truly skidding. BTW you get on HF much or just stay above 30mhz ? FOG
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I wasn't so much concerned about the calibration with the lower front, I am trying to decide whether to swap to 882 or 883 coils to level mine. Looks like the 883s will work.
I'm licensed for all frequencies but at the moment the only radio I have is the VHF/UHF in the truck. I've been looking at getting into HF but haven't done anything yet. The good news is there are no restrictions on antennas in my area. A guy just up the road has 2 50-60 foot towers with a few beams on each. Just have to talk my wife into letting me spend money on another hobby. I did the calibration today using your instructions and ran into a problem. After resetting the yaw sensor I did a test drive and the VSC TRAC and VSC OFF lights came on as soon as I started moving. I read through the procedure in the FSM and noticed that it says to calibrate the deceleration sensor after calibrating the yaw sensor, before driving the vehicle. So to add to your instructions the procedure for the deceleration sensor is 1. Connect terminals T1 and ES again 2. Turn the ignition on 3. Check that the VSC TRAC light is on for about 4 secs and then starts blinking at 0.13 sec intervals 4. After the light has been blinking for 2 secs turn the ignition off 5. Remove the jumper wire After doing this second procedure the lights are now off and everything works fine.
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great info! I'm gonna get right on this!
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Sweet! I had no idea this could be done... Thanks for posting up the info. I'll be doing mine this weekend.
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Very cool. Now this is for how the engine cuts power whenever you start to spin the tires also, right? I remember guys trying to get rid of this a while ago but it was also canceling out the ABS.
No problems there with this (ABS)?
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What fantastic information! Thanks so much for sharing this. I'm one of those that you mentioned that got so irritated I ended up putting on a bypass switch. I love that switch. It's prevented many a curse word. The PDF is really cool too. It's well written and organized. Top notch dude!
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OP. god bless you sir! My dealership told me there is not such thing as this. assuming i can get this to work, you (along with the rest of yotatech) will have kept me out of the dealership for 4 years! Thank you!
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I'm looking forward to doing this recalibration this weekend. Dealership wanted me to pay $50 for this!
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Switching careers in your 30's sucks.FOG
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this still has not fixed what i was hoping it would. this is a bit of a thread jack but if anyone with experience in this area could take a look at my thread, it would be much appreciated.
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We did this procedure on my brothers Taco this afternoon, then the VSC TRAC/VSC OFF lights came on as soon as we stated it up (as Eric mentioned above):
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Very detailed instructions though Fog, thanks again.
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Where can i find a very good level surface??
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im effin sorry for bumping such an old thread but this has saved my life... my damn runner would not move an inch while in 4wd cause the damn vsc would kick in all the time and its damn dangerous driving like that. i was crossing this one intersection and i kinda needed to give it a lil gas and the truck just rolled to the middle of the street and stayed there with the vsc light blinking almost got hit from the side, luckily the other cars stopped... and i though it was just my truck messing up but now i know there is a fix im deff gonna do this asap.
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I have snow on the hood so I can't look right now but are the pins marked? E1 & TS. How long has this lasted before you guys needed to re-recalibrate?
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