1995 4Runner SR5 4x4 Reliability Build up
05-30-2012, 01:15 AM
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Thursday is payday aka buy parts day! Here is my plan
BJ Spacers; as for shocks im going with the Pro Comp ES3000 in the front and Pro Comp ES9000 in the rear. The front are the +2-3" extended shocks accommodating the lift from the BJ spacers and The rear are +4'' Pro Comp ES9000. I am deciding not to install a Differential Drop, as far as I understand it, its only a 1 inch drop and isnt significant to play a roll in saving the cv axles. Cv axels have 3" of movement in our vehicles if I understand correctly, plus it saves me 30 bucks right now.
Will be getting alignment and picking up some mudflaps to put me within the "legal" side of the lift/tire laws. Oregon DOT says 27" from the ground to the lowest part on your vehicle, im at 26" so rather than getting pulled over all for suspicion ill put the flaps on.
BJ Spacers; as for shocks im going with the Pro Comp ES3000 in the front and Pro Comp ES9000 in the rear. The front are the +2-3" extended shocks accommodating the lift from the BJ spacers and The rear are +4'' Pro Comp ES9000. I am deciding not to install a Differential Drop, as far as I understand it, its only a 1 inch drop and isnt significant to play a roll in saving the cv axles. Cv axels have 3" of movement in our vehicles if I understand correctly, plus it saves me 30 bucks right now.
Will be getting alignment and picking up some mudflaps to put me within the "legal" side of the lift/tire laws. Oregon DOT says 27" from the ground to the lowest part on your vehicle, im at 26" so rather than getting pulled over all for suspicion ill put the flaps on.
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05-30-2012, 01:20 AM
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05-30-2012, 09:58 PM
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Word to the wise: Crank your torsion bars! I did and now my tires fit plus my truck looks real good!
EDIT: So even after I cranked my TBars I couldnt drive on the road because 1.5 turns of the wheel and my wheels would hit the body. Now I have no choice either to lift it or get smaller tires....
EDIT: So even after I cranked my TBars I couldnt drive on the road because 1.5 turns of the wheel and my wheels would hit the body. Now I have no choice either to lift it or get smaller tires....
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05-30-2012, 11:14 PM
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Relevant Information
about ball joint spacers:
"These trucks use an independent front suspension (IFS) where a torsion bar spring is fastened to the upper control arm (UCA). The spacer is placed between the upper ball joint and upper control arm. This has the effect of increasing the suspension window of travel 1.5”. The amount if lift varies and is adjusted by the user. By adjusting the torsion bars the suspension can be set anywhere within the travel window.
Impacts on highway use: Since the vehicle now has more suspension travel, customers report and improvement in drive quality. For example, when the vehicle encounters a “pothole” or depression in the road, the wheel can travel down into and out of the depression maintaining better contact with the road. This lessens the feeling the truck is falling into deep depressions. The result of the front wheels remaining in more solid contact with the road during harsh bumps improves control and passenger comfort. SDORI ball joint spacers are therefore deemed suitable for highway and off road use."
Document with different shock lengths:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Docs/Shocks.txt
Birfield info:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/java/whyfail.html
about ball joint spacers:
"These trucks use an independent front suspension (IFS) where a torsion bar spring is fastened to the upper control arm (UCA). The spacer is placed between the upper ball joint and upper control arm. This has the effect of increasing the suspension window of travel 1.5”. The amount if lift varies and is adjusted by the user. By adjusting the torsion bars the suspension can be set anywhere within the travel window.
Impacts on highway use: Since the vehicle now has more suspension travel, customers report and improvement in drive quality. For example, when the vehicle encounters a “pothole” or depression in the road, the wheel can travel down into and out of the depression maintaining better contact with the road. This lessens the feeling the truck is falling into deep depressions. The result of the front wheels remaining in more solid contact with the road during harsh bumps improves control and passenger comfort. SDORI ball joint spacers are therefore deemed suitable for highway and off road use."
Document with different shock lengths:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Docs/Shocks.txt
Birfield info:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/java/whyfail.html
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06-01-2012, 10:53 PM
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Suspension Ordered 
-----------------------------------------------PRICE QTY TOTAL
2.5" Fat Bobs BJ Spacer: $70.00 1 $70.00
+3'' FrontPro Comp ES3000 Twin Tube Gas Shock $37.49 2 $74.98
+4'' Rear Pro Comp ES9000 Nitrogen gas-charged Shock Item Number: $37.49 2 $74.98
+4" Pro Comp Rear Coil Springs Manufacturer Number: 57490 $78.26 1 $78.26
Went with ES3000's up front and ES9000 Series in the rear to beef it up for my towing needs.
CANT WAIT FOR MY PACKAGE TO ARRIVE!
EDIT: I fouled up and forgot to double check my order before I placed it. Remember if you decide to go with Pro Comp in the rear you have to get "stud" style shocks not "eyelet" style mounts Make sure to check twice, order once
I have to wait for the mail to take my shocks back to jcwitney so I can get the right shocks for the rear.
-----------------------------------------------PRICE QTY TOTAL
2.5" Fat Bobs BJ Spacer: $70.00 1 $70.00
+3'' FrontPro Comp ES3000 Twin Tube Gas Shock $37.49 2 $74.98
+4'' Rear Pro Comp ES9000 Nitrogen gas-charged Shock Item Number: $37.49 2 $74.98
+4" Pro Comp Rear Coil Springs Manufacturer Number: 57490 $78.26 1 $78.26
Went with ES3000's up front and ES9000 Series in the rear to beef it up for my towing needs.
CANT WAIT FOR MY PACKAGE TO ARRIVE!
EDIT: I fouled up and forgot to double check my order before I placed it. Remember if you decide to go with Pro Comp in the rear you have to get "stud" style shocks not "eyelet" style mounts Make sure to check twice, order once
I have to wait for the mail to take my shocks back to jcwitney so I can get the right shocks for the rear.
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06-01-2012, 11:26 PM
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I have noticed an overall smoother operation from the throttle body and all of its mechanisms. If your doing preventative maintenance and feel like throwing down 3 bucks for a gasket id say its worth it.
06-08-2012, 09:28 PM
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Got my bj spacers for Fat Bobs garage aka hammerhead 4x4 on ebay. Had to modify one of the parts that came in the box...
Before:
After:
Cant be sportin a sticker with a Jeep on it, cmon now
Gotta grind off part of the control arm so that these will fit. Ordering new ball joints. My passenger side cv axel boot was torn, looked inside and noticed it is fouled up so I will be replacing that too.
Before:
After:
Cant be sportin a sticker with a Jeep on it, cmon now
Gotta grind off part of the control arm so that these will fit. Ordering new ball joints. My passenger side cv axel boot was torn, looked inside and noticed it is fouled up so I will be replacing that too.
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06-10-2012, 08:11 PM
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Definetly there but no body rust just frame and components. Im going to be addressing that with a wire wheel and some self etching primer/paint, probably replacing the control arms since they all rust covered and paint is pealed off due to rust.
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06-10-2012, 08:19 PM
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06-11-2012, 06:04 AM
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I have the same plus a couple body holes. I want to get at all mine too. After all the money we dump into these things it would be a shame to just let it rot away.
06-21-2012, 03:27 PM
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Nice work, man! Keep at it, ..... starting to really shape up, eh? (bet the ride is much nicer when you're done
You gonna relax the t-bars a tiny bit after you install the spacers? I did, along with the zuk lift in rear, which made for a really nice ride up front(I did all new CA bushings, Ball joints, etc., too... but the t-bars were the most JOLTING when too tight, ya know?
More pics! haha.
You gonna relax the t-bars a tiny bit after you install the spacers? I did, along with the zuk lift in rear, which made for a really nice ride up front(I did all new CA bushings, Ball joints, etc., too... but the t-bars were the most JOLTING when too tight, ya know?
More pics! haha.
06-22-2012, 12:39 AM
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BAM! Pass side cv axle, bj spacers, front shocks are in! Fired it up and drove it to put fresh fuel in and the camber is RIDICULOUS! Very stiff ride from the torsion bars being cranked to the max and it pulls to the right...got a pretty absurd look currently.Pics up in the AM
I ordered the Pro Comp shock mount adapters for the rear shocks instead of returning them which would be a hassle. 3 days from now I should be able to put on my new shocks and springs in the rear.
I ordered the Pro Comp shock mount adapters for the rear shocks instead of returning them which would be a hassle. 3 days from now I should be able to put on my new shocks and springs in the rear.
06-22-2012, 12:48 AM
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Nice work, man! Keep at it, ..... starting to really shape up, eh? (bet the ride is much nicer when you're done
You gonna relax the t-bars a tiny bit after you install the spacers? I did, along with the zuk lift in rear, which made for a really nice ride up front(I did all new CA bushings, Ball joints, etc., too... but the t-bars were the most JOLTING when too tight, ya know?
More pics! haha.
You gonna relax the t-bars a tiny bit after you install the spacers? I did, along with the zuk lift in rear, which made for a really nice ride up front(I did all new CA bushings, Ball joints, etc., too... but the t-bars were the most JOLTING when too tight, ya know?
More pics! haha.
As soon as the rear springs and shocks are in I will be adjusting my tbars accordingly but Im probably going to have the alignment shop do it for me, them buggers SUCK to adjust after the first or second time
Pics, i know. If there arent pics it didnt happen. There will prob never be a "during" pic due to grease and high end camera but Ill do ya a solid and have before and afters
