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Old 10-18-2007, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by geigerz2001
I am interested in getting a set. Ive got a couple questions:

1. Are replacement bulbs available if we need to replace them in the future?
2. Is there any chance of the kits failing and frying the cars electrical system?

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1. Yes you can order replacement bulbs if you'd like. You can also order them later on. The warranty will covers the bulbs also for 1 year.

2. No, if the kit fails, you will not fry your electrical system. However, the large amount of power draw on startup can potentially melt your OEM harness. You can always order the relay harness which draws power directly from the battery and uses the stock bulb harness only as a trigger (if you have a bixenon kit, Relay harness is included). The relay harness is $10.

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Old 10-18-2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by superjoe83
I'm not sure about kit bulbs, but a new Philips D2S 4200k bulb puts out 3400 lumen, but the higher you go with color temp the lower the output, IIRC 6000k are about 2200-2500 lumen, also after the bulb reaches 500-1000 hrs it will loose about 15-25% of its initial lumens, and will color shift, which it will become more blueish, i will try to find a chart of lumen vs. color temp....
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Yes, I know it's bad english, but that's from their site.
The 4300k output seems to be about 3600 lumens.
Interesting... so you loose about a 1000 lumens output between 4300k and 6000k bulbs or roughly the difference between 3 halogen bulbs and two halogen bulbs....hmmm...

and if you factor in the median 20% loss at about 750 hrs. life you get
2720 lumens for the 4300k kit & approximately [see superjoe quote] 1880 lumens for the 6000ks. These numbers are still way over the lumen output of a standard single halogen set up on our trucks...
still curious to know just what the lumen output of the kit 6000ks is...
nothing like fun with math is there? lol

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Old 10-18-2007, 01:27 PM
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Test temperature:25℃,CNLIGHT matched ballast:13.5VDC

4300K - 3300 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)

6000K - 2800 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)

8000K - 2600 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)
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Originally Posted by CamNub
Test temperature:25℃,CNLIGHT matched ballast:13.5VDC

4300K - 3300 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)

6000K - 2800 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)

8000K - 2600 +-350 Luminous Flux(lm)
Thanks Cam

So to apply these numbers to the 20% losses after @750hrs

4300K - 2640 +-350 lm

6000K - 2240 +-350 lm

8000K - 2080 +-350 lm

still quite impressive and better than Halogens...
I wonder if running them in a lower mean ambient temperature than 25*C [real world] would yield better results...
more fun with math...

Just thought of something else Cam how would this kit work with the DRL [daytime running light] module? As I understand it it turns on the high beams at a limited Voltage setting... does the Ballast box have the brains to work with this or would we have to disable the DRL system?

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Originally Posted by aviator
Thanks Cam

So to apply these numbers to the 20% losses after @750hrs

4300K - 2640 +-350 lm

6000K - 2240 +-350 lm

8000K - 2080 +-350 lm

still quite impressive and better than Halogens...
I wonder if running them in a lower mean ambient temperature than 25*C [real world] would yield better results...
more fun with math...

Just thought of something else Cam how would this kit work with the DRL [daytime running light] module? As I understand it it turns on the high beams at a limited Voltage setting... does the Ballast box have the brains to work with this or would we have to disable the DRL system?
You will have to disable it =(. The ballast only ignites the bulbs.
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Originally Posted by CamNub
You will have to disable it =(. The ballast only ignites the bulbs.
That's what I thought would be the case.
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Any word back on how long the H3 replacement bulbs are compared to halogen H3's?
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:31 AM
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Ok Add me for True Bi-xenon 6000k, H4

Can someone confirm that H4 is the correct bulb for a 1998 4runner.

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I would also like a set.

My lights come up as 9003, but aren't H4's the same????

JBS4X4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)


Please advise on the 9003 and H4 part....
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1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
10. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)

The 4runner uses a 9003. And like JBS stated, they are the same thing. 9003 and H4 can be said interchangably...

JBSTRD, He hasn't gotten back to me yet. It's Saturday in China so it might have to be Sunday until I get a response, but once I find out, I will let you know.
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Now I am a a little confused, can you get the h4 true bixenon kit in 4300k or 5000k?
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No. It only comes in 6000k and 8000k. I have no clue why the manufacturer didn't make it in 4300k....

It seems it'd make more sense if it were 4300k and 6000k....
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Which brings to my attention some have ordered True Bixenon 8000k's. Please let me know you're second choice since True Bixenon is only available in 4000 and 6000k. Bixenon Moving is available in all colors.
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Originally Posted by CamNub
No. It only comes in 6000k and 8000k. I have no clue why the manufacturer didn't make it in 4300k....

It seems it'd make more sense if it were 4300k and 6000k....
You said right here the H4 True Bi-Xenon comes in 8000K. Were you mistaken or does it only come in 6000K?

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So, please clarify, whqt colors do the bi-xenon moving (h4 ) come in? What about the xenon low halogen hi, what colors are available in h4? Do you know what bulb is used for the halogen beam? is it replaceable?
I am trying to figure out what would be the best option for me. I am interested in warmer colors, 4300k or 5000k.
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Originally Posted by CamNub
Which brings to my attention some have ordered True Bixenon 8000k's. Please let me know you're second choice since True Bixenon is only available in 4000 and 6000k. Bixenon Moving is available in all colors.
now even more confused, If that is the case I would like a set of the true bi-xenon h4 @ 4000k
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Originally Posted by JBSTRD
You said right here the H4 True Bi-Xenon comes in 8000K. Were you mistaken or does it only come in 6000K?

Jason
Sorry for the confusion everyone. I got mixed up. The True Bixenon comes in only 6000k and 8000k. I apologize, I don't know what I was thinking.

JBSTRD: The H3 bulbs are 35 mm's long from the bulb tip to the base of the bulb. I'm sure it will fit the PIAA fogs. The pic you provided shows that it's 80mm deep so it should be no problem at all!

mdh: The Bixenon Moving H4 comes in 3000k, 4300k, 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, and 12000k. It is also available in more extreme colors such as pink and purple. If you're looking at 4300k or 5000k for an H4 bulb and you'd like to keep the hi and low feature, the bixenon moving would be your best bet.

Again, sorry for the mix up guys. Feel free to ask if you have more questions!

Jimmy

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Okay, you can count me in for a set of the single beam H3's in 8000K in addition to the H4 8000K True Bi-Xenon set I already asked for.

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1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. JBSTRD(H3, Single Beam, 8000k)
10. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
11. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
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Im afraid that I have to bakc out of the group buy since ive decided to go HID retrofit. I apologize in advance if this causes any issues.

That is unless you can get something analogous to what goes in an Acura TL HID projector in 5000k or 4300k? What brand ballasts/ignitors?

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