**CNlight HID Conversion Kits**
#81
2. No, if the kit fails, you will not fry your electrical system. However, the large amount of power draw on startup can potentially melt your OEM harness. You can always order the relay harness which draws power directly from the battery and uses the stock bulb harness only as a trigger (if you have a bixenon kit, Relay harness is included). The relay harness is $10.
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I'm not sure about kit bulbs, but a new Philips D2S 4200k bulb puts out 3400 lumen, but the higher you go with color temp the lower the output, IIRC 6000k are about 2200-2500 lumen, also after the bulb reaches 500-1000 hrs it will loose about 15-25% of its initial lumens, and will color shift, which it will become more blueish, i will try to find a chart of lumen vs. color temp....
and if you factor in the median 20% loss at about 750 hrs. life you get
2720 lumens for the 4300k kit & approximately [see superjoe quote] 1880 lumens for the 6000ks. These numbers are still way over the lumen output of a standard single halogen set up on our trucks...
still curious to know just what the lumen output of the kit 6000ks is...
nothing like fun with math is there? lol
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So to apply these numbers to the 20% losses after @750hrs
4300K - 2640 +-350 lm
6000K - 2240 +-350 lm
8000K - 2080 +-350 lm
still quite impressive and better than Halogens...
I wonder if running them in a lower mean ambient temperature than 25*C [real world] would yield better results...
more fun with math...
Just thought of something else Cam how would this kit work with the DRL [daytime running light] module? As I understand it it turns on the high beams at a limited Voltage setting... does the Ballast box have the brains to work with this or would we have to disable the DRL system?
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#85
Thanks Cam
So to apply these numbers to the 20% losses after @750hrs
4300K - 2640 +-350 lm
6000K - 2240 +-350 lm
8000K - 2080 +-350 lm
still quite impressive and better than Halogens...
I wonder if running them in a lower mean ambient temperature than 25*C [real world] would yield better results...
more fun with math...
Just thought of something else Cam how would this kit work with the DRL [daytime running light] module? As I understand it it turns on the high beams at a limited Voltage setting... does the Ballast box have the brains to work with this or would we have to disable the DRL system?
So to apply these numbers to the 20% losses after @750hrs
4300K - 2640 +-350 lm
6000K - 2240 +-350 lm
8000K - 2080 +-350 lm
still quite impressive and better than Halogens...
I wonder if running them in a lower mean ambient temperature than 25*C [real world] would yield better results...
more fun with math...
Just thought of something else Cam how would this kit work with the DRL [daytime running light] module? As I understand it it turns on the high beams at a limited Voltage setting... does the Ballast box have the brains to work with this or would we have to disable the DRL system?
#90
1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
10. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
The 4runner uses a 9003. And like JBS stated, they are the same thing. 9003 and H4 can be said interchangably...
JBSTRD, He hasn't gotten back to me yet. It's Saturday in China so it might have to be Sunday until I get a response, but once I find out, I will let you know.
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
10. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
The 4runner uses a 9003. And like JBS stated, they are the same thing. 9003 and H4 can be said interchangably...
JBSTRD, He hasn't gotten back to me yet. It's Saturday in China so it might have to be Sunday until I get a response, but once I find out, I will let you know.
#93
Which brings to my attention some have ordered True Bixenon 8000k's. Please let me know you're second choice since True Bixenon is only available in 4000 and 6000k. Bixenon Moving is available in all colors.
#94
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#95
So, please clarify, whqt colors do the bi-xenon moving (h4 ) come in? What about the xenon low halogen hi, what colors are available in h4? Do you know what bulb is used for the halogen beam? is it replaceable?
I am trying to figure out what would be the best option for me. I am interested in warmer colors, 4300k or 5000k.
thanks
I am trying to figure out what would be the best option for me. I am interested in warmer colors, 4300k or 5000k.
thanks
#96
now even more confused, If that is the case I would like a set of the true bi-xenon h4 @ 4000k
#97
JBSTRD: The H3 bulbs are 35 mm's long from the bulb tip to the base of the bulb. I'm sure it will fit the PIAA fogs. The pic you provided shows that it's 80mm deep so it should be no problem at all!
mdh: The Bixenon Moving H4 comes in 3000k, 4300k, 6000k, 8000k, 10000k, and 12000k. It is also available in more extreme colors such as pink and purple. If you're looking at 4300k or 5000k for an H4 bulb and you'd like to keep the hi and low feature, the bixenon moving would be your best bet.
Again, sorry for the mix up guys. Feel free to ask if you have more questions!
Jimmy
Last edited by CamNub; 10-21-2007 at 05:37 PM.
#99
1. Bumpin' Yota (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. JBSTRD(H3, Single Beam, 8000k)
10. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
11. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
2. DirtyTaco (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) -ToyotaNation
3. Dinkus (??, Moving Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
4 Mikey55 (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k) - ToyotaNation
5. Jonathan (H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
6. Woody69 (9004, Moving Bixenon, 6000k)
7. Woody69 (H1, Single beam, 6000k)
8. JBSTRD (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
9. JBSTRD(H3, Single Beam, 8000k)
10. geigerz2001(H4, True Bixenon, 6000k)
11. JBS4x4 (H4, True Bixenon, 8000k)
#100
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Im afraid that I have to bakc out of the group buy since ive decided to go HID retrofit. I apologize in advance if this causes any issues.
That is unless you can get something analogous to what goes in an Acura TL HID projector in 5000k or 4300k? What brand ballasts/ignitors?
That is unless you can get something analogous to what goes in an Acura TL HID projector in 5000k or 4300k? What brand ballasts/ignitors?
Last edited by Bumpin' Yota; 10-22-2007 at 08:31 PM.