5.0L 302 Swap, rear axle upgrade

BlueRidge · 08-06-2009, 10:49 AM

I have a 5.0L 302 that will put out about 325hp and 365 ft-lbs of torque, This is going In a 1980 truck. Rear axle upgrade? For Sure…..Chromoly axles or maybe a Ford rear end? Has anyone done this type of V8 swap and modified or replaced anything from the transfer case back? [/font][/color]

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BlueRidge · 08-06-2009, 10:51 AM

Ok, I have a 5.0L 302 that will put out about 325hp and 365 ft-lbs of torque, This is going In a 1980 truck. Rear axle upgrade? For Sure…..Chromoly axles or maybe a Ford rear end? Has anyone done this type of V8 swap and modified anything from the transfer case back?

fillsrunner4 · 08-06-2009, 10:51 AM

Get some 60s

cant go wrong there. I wouldnt run a yota axle

fillsrunner4 · 08-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Or a ford 9" very strong. your toyota tranny and cases will be your next weak link

BlueRidge · 08-06-2009, 10:57 AM

I was thinking ford 9" or "maybe" chromoly axles. I read that some have good luck with them with a 351w. I guess it all comes down to what you do with the truck and how you drive it....

fillsrunner4 · 08-06-2009, 11:00 AM

Ide go with the 9 over just some chromoly alxes. The yota ring and pinion would be what I would be afraid of breaking. be hard pressed to break the 9 and you could put some nice axles in there too. the 9" third is a much stonger design over the yotas

BlueRidge · 08-06-2009, 11:05 AM

Yeah your right, I'll have to start looking around my area for one. As for tranny and t-case, I'm using a Marlin built R150. This is no rock crawler or hard core off-roader. Just a toy with a little attitude....

fillsrunner4 · 08-06-2009, 11:08 AM

I hear ya... Just take it easy on them and youll be golden. I know alot of people with them that absolutly love the power. Its a great motor. Good luck and have fun with it

BlueRidge · 08-06-2009, 11:21 AM

question is how would the over all width compair to the stock yota, from brake drum to brake drum? Would it be a little shorter or longer? I see for a rear end from a early 65-66 housing is about 52"....and what about the spring perch location compaired to the toyota? I guess my question is a Ford 9 from what model would work best?

fillsrunner4 · 08-06-2009, 11:35 AM

im not sure on widths but a good place to find that info would be on pirate. Maybe someone on here could tell you. You can also cut them down or lenghten an axle. Just have to have some pretty good skills or a place to do it and youd have to have custom axles made. but this way you get exactly what you want

Adam F · 08-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Cant go wrong with a 14b. Cheap and STRONG. Full floater would be the ultimate.

If I ever upgrade my rear axle, I will for sure go with a full floater.

RevNL · 08-10-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRidge

question is how would the over all width compair to the stock yota, from brake drum to brake drum? Would it be a little shorter or longer? I see for a rear end from a early 65-66 housing is about 52"....and what about the spring perch location compaired to the toyota? I guess my question is a Ford 9 from what model would work best?

1976-77 Ford Bronco with 11" drums. It's the same width as an IFS Toyota rear. Good: Big bearing, bigger 11" brakes, stronger housing than the older ones. Bad: 28 spline axles stock, probably a 3.50:1 open diff, 5 lug.

86toylet · 08-10-2009, 07:44 PM

Put in a ford 9". Hot rodders have been pumping 500+ into them for years. What tranny and case are you using ?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-10-2009, 07:58 PM

its a 351 cleveland, right? x (insert number of times here) on the ford 9".

vandert · 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM

The ford 8.8 in the current Stangs is pretty stout too even with the stock splines, I did 4500 rpm clutch drops on 4:10's and they held on my 420 rwhp Stang...

8.8 with some 31 splines and welded tubes is near bulletproof, but the 9inch is cheaper and stronger IMO, just giving you options because the width is so cose on the 8.8's in Exploders, Rangers, and mustangs...

coreyc619 · 09-30-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevNL

1976-77 Ford Bronco with 11" drums. It's the same width as an IFS Toyota rear. Good: Big bearing, bigger 11" brakes, stronger housing than the older ones. Bad: 28 spline axles stock, probably a 3.50:1 open diff, 5 lug.

i had one of those and literally threw it away when my dad sold his house.. kicking my own ass right now. was exactly as you described but was from a custom100 pickup truck. 28 spline, 3.50 gears, open diff.. piss. but anyhow that leads me to believe you could find them on some of the pickup trucks as well.

i put over 500 thru the 9" in the truck in my sig.. i actually broke a few teeth on the ring gear AND two of the spider gears back in highschool... guess 5,000 rpm clutch drops on 28inch slicks takes its toll lol. i since built it up a tad.. still has the stock 31 spline axles, just a powertrax lunchbox locker (which i hate) and some 4.10 richmonds. ive beat the ever lovin out of that rear and not so much as a noise from it.. the truck weighs like 4800 lbs on top of all the power and abuse..

as far as 8.8s.. are the explorers center pumpkin locations? i know the rangers are all offset, and seems like the ranger is the same playform as an exploder (reference intended, ours caught fire christmas day while we were driving to familys house, steering column just started smoking) -- my point. would you have to rob one from a stang and just stitch on some spring perches?

08-06-2009, 10:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	Get some 60s cant go wrong there. I wouldnt run a yota axle __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

08-06-2009, 10:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	Or a ford 9" very strong. your toyota tranny and cases will be your next weak link __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

08-06-2009, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	Ide go with the 9 over just some chromoly alxes. The yota ring and pinion would be what I would be afraid of breaking. be hard pressed to break the 9 and you could put some nice axles in there too. the 9" third is a much stonger design over the yotas __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

08-06-2009, 11:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	I hear ya... Just take it easy on them and youll be golden. I know alot of people with them that absolutly love the power. Its a great motor. Good luck and have fun with it __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

08-06-2009, 11:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
BlueRidge Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 13	question is how would the over all width compair to the stock yota, from brake drum to brake drum? Would it be a little shorter or longer? I see for a rear end from a early 65-66 housing is about 52"....and what about the spring perch location compaired to the toyota? I guess my question is a Ford 9 from what model would work best? Last edited by BlueRidge; 08-06-2009 at 11:32 AM.

08-06-2009, 10:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
BlueRidge Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 13	Ok, I have a 5.0L 302 that will put out about 325hp and 365 ft-lbs of torque, This is going In a 1980 truck. Rear axle upgrade? For Sure…..Chromoly axles or maybe a Ford rear end? Has anyone done this type of V8 swap and modified anything from the transfer case back?

08-06-2009, 10:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
BlueRidge Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 13	I was thinking ford 9" or "maybe" chromoly axles. I read that some have good luck with them with a 351w. I guess it all comes down to what you do with the truck and how you drive it....

08-06-2009, 11:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
BlueRidge Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 13	Yeah your right, I'll have to start looking around my area for one. As for tranny and t-case, I'm using a Marlin built R150. This is no rock crawler or hard core off-roader. Just a toy with a little attitude....

08-06-2009, 11:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,724	im not sure on widths but a good place to find that info would be on pirate. Maybe someone on here could tell you. You can also cut them down or lenghten an axle. Just have to have some pretty good skills or a place to do it and youd have to have custom axles made. but this way you get exactly what you want __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 39" Iroks, Rear Leafswap, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, Chevy 4.3L V6, 5spd swap, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, Chopped, Bobbed and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread Last edited by fillsrunner4; 08-06-2009 at 11:36 AM.

08-07-2009, 09:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	Cant go wrong with a 14b. Cheap and STRONG. Full floater would be the ultimate. If I ever upgrade my rear axle, I will for sure go with a full floater. __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

08-10-2009, 07:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
86toylet Banned 'cause I was 4runnerchevy also banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Cruz Mountains Posts: 196	Put in a ford 9". Hot rodders have been pumping 500+ into them for years. What tranny and case are you using ?

08-10-2009, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
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09-28-2009, 01:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
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