1UZFE swap into 2nd Gen 4Runner

Cebby · 03-21-2005, 10:37 AM

Any of you that were following along in the other thread knew I got screwed out of a prime 2UZ. 11K miles, complete. Sucks, but out of my hands.

EDIT: Link added. http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=53317

Probably a blessing as some others have suggested the weight of the 2UZ iron block may be an issue. Fortunately, the 1UZ is an all alloy block and offers a substantial weight savings. I haven't found a weight on the 2UZ, but what I've discovered is the 1UZ weighs about 196kg (431 lbs) I had heard estimates that the 2UZ was 600 lbs +.... (I'm curious what the 3VZE weighs...)

So, today the first step has been taken. I've ordered up a wiring harness and AFM for the 1UZ. I also have a line on a low mileage JDM engine in New York, so I might be renting a pickup truck and taking a road trip.

I'm planning to also get the tranny from behind the 1UZ and convert it 4WD. It is an easy (albeit time consuming due to the level of disassembly) conversion. That way I'm assured the ECU and tranny are working together as they should. This may change if there is a better solution (ie. As strong, with less work...)

So, as of today I still need:

Engine
Transmission (or bellhousing only some other tranny)
ECU (pending)

I'll need to fab:

Motor mounts
Accessory mounts (?)
Exhaust
Intake
Misc other stuff

Hopefully the only upcoming drama has to do with fitting the engine and not with obtaining parts....

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FilthyRich · 03-21-2005, 10:41 AM

Good luck with it all. I know you will keep us posted. Can't wait to see what happens....

mt_goat · 03-21-2005, 10:48 AM

Put me on the list for updates!

lee · 03-21-2005, 10:56 AM

take pics along the way.. these things fascinate me. props to you on being able to handle all of this!

rimpainter.com · 03-21-2005, 10:57 AM

Can you put a link to the "other" thread? I want to read the story.

TDiddy · 03-21-2005, 11:01 AM

Christian,

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...7&page=5&pp=25

dlbrunner · 03-21-2005, 11:06 AM

I have been sort of following this, I like the v-8 Idea! I checked out the thread for the one in australia, man those Aussies do some good work. Keep pics posted, I am interested in the outcome.

bulldog-yota · 03-21-2005, 11:56 AM

good luck, would like to follow this one.

Praufet · 03-21-2005, 02:00 PM

Yay! After watching this I may be the next one. Just curious as to the time/cost it will take. Go Mike Go!

Cebby · 03-21-2005, 09:00 PM

Got an ECU tonight...

Cebby · 03-22-2005, 04:53 AM

I'll try to bring over as much tech as I can from Lextreme on this subject. For more technical information, see here:

http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2653

Cebby · 04-02-2005, 10:45 AM

Bought an engine today - JDM 1UZFE between under 50k miles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7951738310

Hopefully this one will actually materialize...

I also found a LS400 tranny that I'll convert to 4wd. Anyone have access to or know where I can find a blown up a340f tranny? All I need from it is the output shaft and tailhousing...

Thanks to Bill (PAHydrohead) for picking up the tranny for me.

I already have an Engine Harness, ECU, and AFM.

4RunnerKid · 04-02-2005, 04:03 PM

hell yeah mike!!! that' awesome you finally picked up a motor. cheap too... congrats. can't wait to see thr updates. i'm definitely going to be doing this swap when the time comes for mine.

NCSU-4runner · 04-02-2005, 04:05 PM

another interesting swap, i just finished up my supra swap so if you have any questions feel free to give me a holler

mt_goat · 04-03-2005, 11:28 AM

nm.....

mt_goat · 04-03-2005, 11:49 AM

Never mind I see now it's the aluminum block, that's sweet!

dlbrunner · 04-05-2005, 05:06 PM

I was curious, do you know what the weights of the toyota v-8 is, I read that the 1ufe is a lot lighter (alum/alum) than the other 2u(I can't member the rest) (cast iron/alum). The lexextreme site pointed to the fact there may be issues with the cast iron version because of the weight.
Now to the question: How much do each of the engines weigh? How much does a Chevy 350 cast iron, with cast iron heads weigh? The chevy question is just for a frame of reference in my mind. I think the chev 350 is about 300lbs? All I know is my cruiser lost a lot of weight when I pulled the f motor, and never gained it back with the 350.

What a deal on that motor!! looks like things are rolling along. I can't wait to see the "evolution"

Cebby · 04-05-2005, 05:24 PM

The 1UZFE (Lex 4.0) is around 430 lbs. The 2UZFE (Toy 4.7) is over 600 lbs.

EDIT: I read elsewhere tonight that the engine is around 175kg. I think that means about 385 lbs.

Cebby · 04-07-2005, 09:29 AM

Engine arrived today at my buddy's warehouse!!!!!

I'm going down to snap some pics and take a few measurements. I need to see if we can weight it too.

dlbrunner · 04-07-2005, 11:49 AM

Cool Beans, from the few threads I have read, weight was a concern. I statred thinking that there are a bunch of toyota pickups and 4runners with 350 conversions and little has been mentioned (that I have read) regarding structural problems due to weight, so If either the 1uzfe or the 2uzfe are lighter than a 350 then I would assume the weight issue should be negligible.

I realize you are using the auto tranny, but this swap seems like an idea that is gaining a little popularity. I was wondering on the compatibility of the 1uzfe with the H series landcruiser manual transmissions. Thinking of the H55 or the H41 (granny 4spd). The use of this tranny would have to ditch the cruiser t-case because of off set diffs, but marlin does make a toybox adapter for these H series trans, which would allow the use of the 23 spline gear driven t-case thus keeping the mini axles.
Not a highjack, just interested if you ran across any of this in your research.
Also- Are you going to attemt to keep the A/C? I live in Phx, and this would be a MAJOR consideration.
Weekend is coming, plenty of time to turn wrenches! Good Luck

Cebby · 04-07-2005, 12:59 PM

I'm keeping the A/C definitely!! Fortunately for me, mine needed recharged at the end of last summer, so I'm not wasting a fresh or good charge to reroute pipes.

No good pics cause the engine is on a skid, shrinkwrapped and banded. I'm not breaking it down until I get it to the shop.

I did measure it as best I could, it's about 24-25" wide, 24-25" long and around 23" tall (not including the sump). An approximate eye-balling of the 3VZE shows the 1UZFE is only an inch or two wider at the valve covers, but narrower overall due to the distributor, a good 3"+ longer, and I couldn't get a good height on the 3VZE. It will be alot easier to compare with them side by side when the 3.0 is out and the 4.0 is unpacked.

Cebby · 04-07-2005, 01:00 PM

Oh yeah - it's mine...ALL MINE!!!! Muhahahaha!!!!!!!

calg3 · 04-07-2005, 01:07 PM

Awesome project, can't wait to see how it turns out!

Praufet · 04-07-2005, 01:56 PM

Pretty!

mt_goat · 04-07-2005, 03:08 PM

"a good 3"+ longer" How is that going to fit? Last time I looked there wasn't a lot of extra room behind the radiator.

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dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,141	I have been sort of following this, I like the v-8 Idea! I checked out the thread for the one in australia, man those Aussies do some good work. Keep pics posted, I am interested in the outcome. __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

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Praufet Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Worth/College Station, TX Posts: 835	Yay! After watching this I may be the next one. Just curious as to the time/cost it will take. Go Mike Go! __________________ --Brian '94 4Runner SR5 4WD 285 Terra Grapplers on FJ80 wheels\|Rancho 9000s on all 4 corners\|Cruiser coils\|Marlin Rear brake line Stereo CDT Audio CL-61A\|CDT Audio CL-6X\|Profile 640 and Profile 600M\|Audiobahn 100Q

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lee Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston, ma Posts: 6,756	take pics along the way.. these things fascinate me. props to you on being able to handle all of this!

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03-21-2005, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Got an ECU tonight... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

03-22-2005, 04:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I'll try to bring over as much tech as I can from Lextreme on this subject. For more technical information, see here: http://www.lextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2653 __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

04-02-2005, 10:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Bought an engine today - JDM 1UZFE between under 50k miles: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7951738310 Hopefully this one will actually materialize... I also found a LS400 tranny that I'll convert to 4wd. Anyone have access to or know where I can find a blown up a340f tranny? All I need from it is the output shaft and tailhousing... Thanks to Bill (PAHydrohead) for picking up the tranny for me. I already have an Engine Harness, ECU, and AFM. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR Last edited by Cebby; 04-02-2005 at 10:48 AM.

04-02-2005, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
4RunnerKid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sac + SLO, CA Posts: 1,033	hell yeah mike!!! that' awesome you finally picked up a motor. cheap too... congrats. can't wait to see thr updates. i'm definitely going to be doing this swap when the time comes for mine. __________________ -Mikey- 1993 4Runner ~ TG HD/RUF front \| All Pro rear \| 37" Krawlers \| Marlin UM06s \| 12" King 2.5s \| 2" air bumps \| 12" Fox 2.0s \| Aussie front \| Lock-Right rear \| 5-speed swap \| TG 4.7s \| 5.29s \| 4xInnovations cage \| bumpers \| sliders \| t-case skid \| K&N intake \| Flowmaster 40 \| Optima red top \| clear lenses \| PIAA 1400s \| LED rock lights \| PIAA superwhites \| stereo Polygoats 4-Wheel Drive Club Poly Performance

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04-03-2005, 11:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,863	Never mind I see now it's the aluminum block, that's sweet! __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

04-05-2005, 05:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,141	I was curious, do you know what the weights of the toyota v-8 is, I read that the 1ufe is a lot lighter (alum/alum) than the other 2u(I can't member the rest) (cast iron/alum). The lexextreme site pointed to the fact there may be issues with the cast iron version because of the weight. Now to the question: How much do each of the engines weigh? How much does a Chevy 350 cast iron, with cast iron heads weigh? The chevy question is just for a frame of reference in my mind. I think the chev 350 is about 300lbs? All I know is my cruiser lost a lot of weight when I pulled the f motor, and never gained it back with the 350. What a deal on that motor!! looks like things are rolling along. I can't wait to see the "evolution" __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

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calg3 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Old Line State Posts: 1,042	Awesome project, can't wait to see how it turns out! __________________ 2006 Subaru Outback, miss my 4Runner! 2006 Mazda3, zoom, zoom... Look at my previous truck(s) in the Yotatech gallery: http://yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=42494

04-05-2005, 05:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	The 1UZFE (Lex 4.0) is around 430 lbs. The 2UZFE (Toy 4.7) is over 600 lbs. EDIT: I read elsewhere tonight that the engine is around 175kg. I think that means about 385 lbs. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR Last edited by Cebby; 04-05-2005 at 08:13 PM.

04-07-2005, 09:29 AM	#19 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Engine arrived today at my buddy's warehouse!!!!! I'm going down to snap some pics and take a few measurements. I need to see if we can weight it too. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

04-07-2005, 11:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,141	Cool Beans, from the few threads I have read, weight was a concern. I statred thinking that there are a bunch of toyota pickups and 4runners with 350 conversions and little has been mentioned (that I have read) regarding structural problems due to weight, so If either the 1uzfe or the 2uzfe are lighter than a 350 then I would assume the weight issue should be negligible. I realize you are using the auto tranny, but this swap seems like an idea that is gaining a little popularity. I was wondering on the compatibility of the 1uzfe with the H series landcruiser manual transmissions. Thinking of the H55 or the H41 (granny 4spd). The use of this tranny would have to ditch the cruiser t-case because of off set diffs, but marlin does make a toybox adapter for these H series trans, which would allow the use of the 23 spline gear driven t-case thus keeping the mini axles. Not a highjack, just interested if you ran across any of this in your research. Also- Are you going to attemt to keep the A/C? I live in Phx, and this would be a MAJOR consideration. Weekend is coming, plenty of time to turn wrenches! Good Luck __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

04-07-2005, 12:59 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I'm keeping the A/C definitely!! Fortunately for me, mine needed recharged at the end of last summer, so I'm not wasting a fresh or good charge to reroute pipes. No good pics cause the engine is on a skid, shrinkwrapped and banded. I'm not breaking it down until I get it to the shop. I did measure it as best I could, it's about 24-25" wide, 24-25" long and around 23" tall (not including the sump). An approximate eye-balling of the 3VZE shows the 1UZFE is only an inch or two wider at the valve covers, but narrower overall due to the distributor, a good 3"+ longer, and I couldn't get a good height on the 3VZE. It will be alot easier to compare with them side by side when the 3.0 is out and the 4.0 is unpacked. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

04-07-2005, 01:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Oh yeah - it's mine...ALL MINE!!!! Muhahahaha!!!!!!! __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

04-07-2005, 01:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
Praufet Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Worth/College Station, TX Posts: 835	Pretty! __________________ --Brian '94 4Runner SR5 4WD 285 Terra Grapplers on FJ80 wheels\|Rancho 9000s on all 4 corners\|Cruiser coils\|Marlin Rear brake line Stereo CDT Audio CL-61A\|CDT Audio CL-6X\|Profile 640 and Profile 600M\|Audiobahn 100Q

04-07-2005, 03:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,863	"a good 3"+ longer" How is that going to fit? Last time I looked there wasn't a lot of extra room behind the radiator. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

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