1992 Swap Options (has to be R150F, stock height)
12-05-2013, 07:17 AM
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bloomington, In
1992 Swap Options (has to be R150F, stock height)
i'm not new to swaps (i did a 2RZ-FE into an 1985 pickup a few years back) and i know there is lots of info on swaps (and yes i have searched) but there are two caveats that limit the possibilities of what i'm trying to do: i want to keep my OEM trans and suspension and i do not want a body lift.
i've been reading around the forum but can't find too many cases with those basic requirements: i have a 3VZE powered 1992 pickup (hilux) and am looking into swap options that do not require a new transmission (willing to change bell housings but stock trans has to stay) and also allow me to keep the stock height (not willing to do a body lift).
what swap options fit these requirements? i know a toyota turbo diesel swap (1kzt-e) and the 3RZ-FE would work.
anything else? i'm willing to consider non-toyota motors as well though my preference would be to keep everything toyota.
Last edited by alfio; 12-12-2013 at 10:18 AM.
12-05-2013, 09:28 AM
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mission, BC
Give quote below a read, it might help you narrow down you're engine choices given your restrictions.
If you go down this route bear in mind there is almost certainly some input shaft swaping required and some other machining to get everthing fitted right, the r150 shaft is to short for most applications.
The Jeep/Dodge AX15 5-speed, the Jeep NV3550 5-speed, the Jeep NV1500, the Toyota R150F & R151F, the 87-92 Toyota Supra Turbo R154, the Isuzu AR5 and the Pontiac Solstice\Saturn Sky\Chevy Colorado\ GMC Canyon MA5 5-speeds all share the same case to bellhousing bolt pattern (Large Pattern). As such there are a number of possibilities that can be had when a 5-speed is desired:
Pic 1 #1. Novak Enterprises: Adapter plate for AX15 to GM 4-speed bellhousing. Connects all except NV3550 and NV1500 to same.
#2. 94-95 Dakota 2.5L bellhousing: Connects all to any K car based 2.2L-2.5L L4 in a RWD application.
#3. 96-00 Dakota 2.5L bellhousing: Connects all to any Jeep 2.5L L4. Because of it's GM 60 degree V6 inherited bolt pattern, also works with any Buick FWD V6 and supercharged V6, any Chevrolet 2.8/3.1/3.4 V6, any Cadillac 4.1/4.5/4.9 V8 and with a minor modification, any Olds Aurora DOHC V8 and Cadillac DOHC Northstar V8. Also bolts to any Isuzu 3.2\3.5 DOHC V6, Holden (Australia) 3800 V6 and the LS4 5.3L V8 from the Impala SS.
#4. 88-99 Jeep 4.0L L6 bellhousing: Connects all to any AMC 290/304/343/360/390/401 V8 and any 72 and later 232 L6 and 258 L6.
#5. 94-99 Dakota 3.9L V6 Bellhousing: Connects all to any 3.9L V6 and any 273/318/340/360 V8, Magnum 5.2\5.9 V8, 3.7L V6, 4.7L V8, 5.7L Hemi V8, and Jeep 2.8L CRD Turbo Diesel. (Requires use of an 11" flywheel.)
#6. 96-04 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V6. Also works with Toyota 3.0L V6
#7. 86.5-92 Toyota Supra Turbo 7M-GTE. Also works with Toyota 5M-GE.
01-04 Jeep Liberty 3.7L V6 bellhousing: Connects all to any 3.7L V6, 4.7L V8 and any 273/318/340/360 V8, Magnum 5.2\5.9 V8, 5.7L Hemi V8, and Jeep 2.8L CRD Turbo Diesel. (Requires use of an 10.5" flywheel.)
03-04 Jeep Liberty\TJ 2.4L bellhousing: Connects NV1500 to 2.4L SOHC\DOHC Neon\SRT-4\PT Cruiser L4 (See info at #11)
Isuzu Trooper 3.5 V6 AR5 bellhousing: Connects all to any Isuzu 3.2\3.5 V6
04-05 Chevy Colorado\ GMC Canyon MA5 bellhousing: Connects all to any Vortec 2800 L4, 3500 L5 and 4200 L6
06 Pontiac Solstice\ Saturn Sky MA5 bellhousing: Connects all to any Ecotec 2.4L
88-95 Toyota Landcruiser: 1L, 2L and 2L-T Turbo Diesel truck bellhousing connects to R series transmissions. (See Pic 2 Note below)
Advance Adapters: Bellhousing for AX15 to Chevrolet-Buick-Olds-Pontiac V8 and Buick V6. Connects all except NV3550, NV1500 and Pre 1996 R150 and R151 to same. www.advanceadapters.com
Advance Adapters: Bellhousing for Pre 1996 R150 and R151 to Chevrolet-Buick-Olds-Pontiac V8 and Buick V6. www.advanceadapters.com
Advance Adapters: Bellhousing for NV3550 to Chevrolet-Buick-Olds-Pontiac V8 and Buick V6.
Advance Adapters: Adapter plate for AX15 to Ford bellhousing. Connects all except NV3550 and NV1500 to same.
Advance Adapters: Adapter plate for NV3550 to Ford bellhousing.
Marlin Crawlers: Bellhousing to connect all to 2RZ / 3RZ Toyota 4 cylinder engines http://www.marlincrawler.com/
Japanese Auto Repair: Bellhousing to bolt all transmissions to a Mitsubishi DOHC 4G63. www.japaneseauto.com
Swift Machine: Adapter plate for NV3550 to GM 4-speed bellhousing. www.swiftmachine.com
Suzuki Only Supply: Adapter plate to bolt R series to Suzuki 1.3\1.6. www.rock4xfabrication.com/ringr.htm
Thor Racing in the UK: Adapter plate to bolt an R154 to a Toyota (Lexus) V8 automatic bellhousing. http://www.thor-racing.co.uk/R154_to...FE_Adaptor.asp
Jeep AX5, Toyota G52, G58, W55, W56, W57 and W58 5-speeds all share a common face pattern on the case (Small pattern). As such, any 88-99 Jeep 2.5L bellhousing (NOT Dakota) will bolt a Toyota W series transmission to a 60 degree GM bolt pattern.
Factory: 1981-86 1L, 2L and 2L-T Turbo Diesel truck bellhousing connects to W and G series transmissions. (See Pic 2 Note below)
1982-92 Lotus Excel - W series bellhousing to bolt Toyota transmission to Lotus 2.2L DOHC 4.
Advance Adapters: Bellhousing to bolt a W and G series Toyota trans to a Chevy-Buick-Olds-Pontiac block.
Northwest Off Road: Bellhousing to bolt W and G series to Ford 5.0. www.northwestoffroad.com
Suzuki Only Supply: Adapter plate to bolt W and G series to Suzuki 1.3\1.6. www.rock4xfabrication.com/ringr.htm
Acme Adapters: Adapter plate and flywheel to bolt VW 1.6, 1.9 Diesel to W and G series transmisson. www.acmeadapters.com
Japanese Auto Repair: Bellhousing to bolt Toyota W and G series transmissions to a Mitsubishi DOHC 4G63 bellhousing. www.japaneseauto.com
Red's Headers: Bellhousing to bolt Toyota W and G series transmissions to a 32-48 Ford Flathead V8 http://www.flatattackracing.com
OTT Industries: Adapter plate to bolt an SM420 5-speed to any Toyota W and G series bellhousing. Can also be used for a GM pattern T5 and Tremec TKO. http://www.ottindustries.com/
Advance Adapters: Adapter plate to bolt a large pattern AX15 to a small pattern AX5 bellhousing. Can be used with the other Long Shaft transmissions except the NV1500 and NV3550.
NOTE: Input shafts lengths vary.
Pre 1995 R150\R151 = 6.5"
1996 up Toyota R series = 7.5"
AX15 = 7.875"
87-92 Turbo Supra R154 = 7.25"
AR5 = 8.2"
MA5 = 8.2"
NV3550 = 7.875"
NV1500 = 8.6"
AX5 = 7.5"
Toyota W series = 6.5"
Toyota G series = 6.5"
Pic 2 Advance Adapters makes an extra long pilot bearing when using a slightly shorter input shaft tranny with a bellhousing that had a longer one. Obviously you can't put the longer input shaft trans into a Toyota bell that had a shorter one. (Unless a spacer is used or the input shaft is swapped. See below.)
The transmissons and bellhousings can be split up into two categories. SHORT SHAFT\SHORT BELL and LONG SHAFT\LONG BELL. They cannot be easily mixed without modifications.
All AX15's, AR5's, MA5's, NV3550's, R154's and Toyota R150's (built after 1996) are LONG SHAFT\LONG BELL. To use one of these in a SHORT SHAFT\SHORT BELL application requires a 1" spacer available from Japanese Auto in Toledo, OH ( http://www.japaneseauto.com/ ), Dellow Automotive or Castlemaine Rod Shop in Australia. Of course, any bellhousing combo one can think of is also available from them...
ALL Toyota R150's and R151's built before 1996 are SHORT SHAFT\SHORT BELL. These CANNOT be used in a LONG SHAFT\LONG BELL application or with LONG SHAFT\LONG BELL adapter plates.
Pic 3: Example of a LONG SHAFT transmission hooked up to a SHORT BELL with a Dellow Automotive spacer
The Jeep AX5's 7.5" input shaft does not allow it to be used with the Toyota G and W series bellhousings unless a spacer is fabricated OR the input shaft is swapped between them. (Apparently the short 6.5" G series Toyota input shaft can be made to work in an AX5 case and vice versa). The one exception is shown below.
The Jeep NV1500 has the longest input shaft of the group at 8.6".
Pic 4: All of the large pattern transmissions.
Pic 5: All of the small pattern transmissions.
Trans First Second Third Fourth Fifth
AX15 - 3.83 2.33 1.44 1.00 0.79
AR5 - 3.753 2.26 1.37 1.00 0.729
MA5 - 3.753 2.26 1.37 1.00 0.729 (Colorado/Canyon/Hummer H3)
MA5 - 3.75 2.26 1.51 1.00 0.729 (Solstice/Sky)
R150 - 3.83 2.062 1.436 1.00 0.838
R151 - 4.31 3.32 1.52 1.00 0.83
R154 - 3.25 1.95 1.30 1.00 0.75
NV1500- 3.85 2.25 1.48 1.00 0.80
NV3550 - 4.01 2.32 1.40 1.00 0.78
Aftermarket gearset by OS Giken for Toyota R, GM/Isuzu AR5 and Jeep AX15: 2.701 1.614 1.215
Pic 6: Front bearing covers are interchangeable between the Toyota R series, AX15, MA5, and AR5. NV3550, AX5 and W series are not interchangeable. The 92 and earlier Jeep AX15 front cover is aluminum and takes a hydraulic throwout bearing. The 93 and later AX15 uses an external slave and clutch arm. It's cast iron. The Toyota front cover has a shorter nose of a smaller diameter and is also cast iron.
So... there's no shortage of parts for these gearboxes. Any good shop can rebuild them and they are still not that expensive.
Last edited by Greg55_99 : 03-04-2008 at 07:05 PM.
For those Jeep gents that have broken AX5's laying around, Don't ditch the bellhousing. It may be used in a Toyota application and can bolt up any GM 60 degree engine (3.4/3.1/2.8 Chevy V6, Buick 3800 V6, Isuzu 3.2/3.5 V6, etc....) to the Toyota G series and W series tranismissions.
Pic 1 is a Toyota W58 out of a Supra hooked up to an AX5 bellhousing.
Pic 2 shows the AX5 bell planted up to a Chevy Camaro 3.4L V6.
Pic 3 For this to work with the AX5 bell, you'd need the thick (heavy) flywheel from a Camaro/Firebird. It places the clutch disk back far enough to completely engage the splines on the short W/G series input shaft. That's got to be at least 1 3/4" from the back of the block to the front face of the flywheel. The S10 flywheel is shorter (more narrow) and won't work.
Pic 4 is a bellhousing also with the GM 60 degree pattern from the 96-00 Dodge Dakota 2.5L hooked up nicely to an R154 5-speed out 87-92 Toyota Turbo Supra. It also requires the use of the Camaro 3.4L V6 flywheel.
Note: This information applies only to the Rear Wheel Drive versions of the 2.8\3.1\3.4L V6. They have the starter on the passenger side which clears the bellhousing. The Front Wheel Drive versions of these engines, 3100\3400\3500\3900 V6's have the starters on the driver side of the block. That would require either cutting into the bellhousing or finding a way to bolt the starter on the opposite side. Also, FWD flywheels are a different diameter than the RWD flywheels.
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12-12-2013, 10:19 AM
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bloomington, In
thanks for that bit of info, clarifies a lot.
(for now at least) i'm going to stick with the R150F.
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