yota_dude

i am getting an axle from an 83 for free and i want to still keep my truck on 31 for a while do i have to do high steer right a way or can i hold on till i lift the truck also do i need to get the drive shaft lenghted at all since it will be stock height by the way this is going to be done on an 88 pickup with 22re thanks for the help

4banginRunner

-your steering box is different than the 79-83 style, thats why your gunna have to go to high-steer (high steer uses IFS steering box)
-you'll have to lift the truck to clear the steering
-and you'll get away with the stock shaft up to about 4" anything over that or if you have a flexy set up, I'd recommend getting them lengthened

i would hold off your SAS plans until your have all the parts collected, money saved for unforeseen problems, and most importantly you have spent the time to research and understand the ever popular SAS

AxleIke

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Or you can fab it yourself, do a SUA swap, and you'll clear the steering that way.

Also, please punctuate. Not trying to be a jerk, but your post was extremely difficult to read.

yota_dude

sorry i am new here. so if i do a sua i can keep th stock steering? i would like the swap to keep my truck as high as it is now, all i did to lift it i cranked the tbars a lil.maybe an inch if that.
i get the stock leaf springs and everything.

AxleIke

No. You cannot keep the stock steering. You must use highsteer. You have an IFS steering box, not a SA steering box. They are quite different.

With a SUA, you can do a LOW SAS with highsteer, as the springs are below the axle and thus do not interfere with the steering. You will have to limit your compression travel to keep the steering out of the frame.

PSmith

anyone have any pics of lower SAS'd rigs? searched and couldn't come up with much.

Elvota

Dropped SAS running 35's (tires, not wheels). Blingtastic.

Belize Off Road Team

^ nice photoshop edit as if any 4Runner cold fit 35s with no lift. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bighead

Steve at Sonoran Steel.

MSR

Here is a 92 4runner we did for a local fire department. Its on 31's with high steer

PSmith

pretty cool, any more pics / specs?

stock soild axle springs? how much uptravel were you guys at with that ride height?

MSR

I can pm you some more pics but they are big i haven't shrunk anymore that one is from my site. We took a TG kit tossed the lifted springs in for fittment and then had my spring maker make a low three leaf spring setup. Had to make my own shackles to get it even lower. The end up travel is only 4 inches but still has 6 inches of drop. Bump stop placement is crucial as is spring hanger to make high steer clear and work right.

4rnnr33

honestly i dont see any point in doing a sas if you are planning on keeping it stock height it just seems like a waste of time and money just my 2 cents

AxleIke

Most rock buggies have roof lines that sit below 6 feet.

Low and wide is how you build a truly capable truck. Tall will look cool at the mall, and be rolled on the trail.

IMO, the ONLY way to do a SAS is low. Cut out the fender to fit huge tires, and do the SAS for strength only. The less lift you can do, the better. Lift is silly on the trail. My truck has next to nothing. Ask those I wheel with how well it does.

Here is another. This truck sits lower than Lysmachia's truck. Mollys has a traditional leafspring SAS, and 35's. This truck is on 37's, fully custom SAS, is on full width diamond axles, and is fully beadlocked.

PSmith

nice ride ike, what's the width on those axles WMS:WMS?


my plan for the truck i just started working on was to build something 4wd and capable of getting anywhere in the desert as fast and safely as possible.

was planning on keeping the IFS and going with a long arm kit but my recent discovery of something being bent on the truck (hopefully not the frame) might end up prohibiting me from doing so. if the IFS cant be fixed i'm considering an SAS... if that doesn't happen looks like i'll end up cutting my losses.

if i was to go with a solid axle in the front the truck would need to still be capable of serving the purposes mentioned above, otherwise it's worthless to me. 6" huge arc lift springs, 44s and a body lift do you no good when you need to get somewhere fast.


here are some additional pics of mikes fire rig from above also, cool truck.

AxleIke

67" WMS to WMS.

Those are 37x12.50 GY MT/R's. They sit almost completely outboard of the fenders. That truck is the most stable thing ever.

Elvota

SAS are not fast, IFS is fast.

SAS can be ultimately made stronger than IFS.

Sprung under SAS will have more up travel and will be "faster"... and also lower.

PSmith

solid axle trucks can be fast, just takes money.

there's been quite a few solid axle yotas that have run 7s in the desert and been quite successful. some of my buddies run the jeepspeed circuit in both 2x/4x mode with much success, fast... but by no means smooth. haha.

if i went solid in the front it would be in attempt to save a bent up truck. still up in the air on everything until i figure out the extent of the damage on the pile i picked up but a leaf sprun SAS hasn't been ruled out, yet.


...and for the hell of it, 1795 1st overall '05 and '06, second overall '07

MSR

Ahhhhhhh lookout a heep has jumped onto Yotatech

hanksyota

haha. well, just wait til it lands and falls apart.