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Old 07-15-2010, 11:30 AM
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Suspension/Steering Noise - Idler Arm?

Hi everyone, I have another problem on my 4runner. I found it this parts is very loose and it click very loud when you go on a speed bump or any hole. I tried to search it but I dont know the name of the part? it is on the passenger side. can I fix it or I have to take it to a shop? all the bushes on the suspencion are pretty bad. is there is like a kit to replace all the rubber bushings. thank you....P.s. my car is a 95 4runner. 5spd. stock tire.
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and here is a video to show you have easy is to move it with my hand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRywjE1btLI
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Idler arm.

IIRC there is a kit to rebuild it but I'd wait for somebody who has done it more recently than me to make sure.

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yup, idler arm

super common part to go bad

roughly $100 from any parts store, and it really easy to replace




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OOOR, you can order replacement bushings that are inside it, and rebuild it yourself, depending on how mechanically inclined you are
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Moved to the Newbie Tech section and renamed.

IIRC the bushings are pretty reasonably priced at the dealership too.

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i am ok....not a pro do....i think I would rather replace the whole thing.
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Originally Posted by norcal707
i am ok....not a pro do....i think I would rather replace the whole thing.
Smart choice.

No real need to go OEM with something like this - like Travis said, any auto parts store will work.
I would check out www.carpartswholesale.com; they have always had amazing prices and SUPER fast shipping when I've ordered from them.

They use well known aftermarket brands for most of their components, too.

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the only time a rebuild isn't an option is when the darn thing gets bent and starts hitting the frame









but yeah in your case, it just sounds like the bushings are shot


and there are replacements that look a little different

my replacement after that bent one was a different design, but they do the same function and work equally as well


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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
What was the warranty on your replacement one?

I saw one at O'Reillys a few years back that had a lifetime, no questions asked warranty - even if it was bent, broken, burnt, etc...

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that one had a lifetime bought from Advance Auto Parts
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DAMN...That looks bad superbleeder...I am checking the prices and I found one on rockauto for $78. thank you guys. I couldnt find it because I didnt know the name now I have tons of info.
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Originally Posted by norcal707
DAMN...That looks bad superbleeder...I am checking the prices and I found one on rockauto for $78. thank you guys. I couldnt find it because I didnt know the name now I have tons of info.
Be sure to check the warranty out - I'd rather pay $30 more and get a lifetime warranty.

Glad we could help you out!

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Originally Posted by norcal707
DAMN...That looks bad superbleeder...
that's what happens when you push IFS to it's limits

stay stock, it'll last much longer, lol



best of luck


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i just found a good site on how to rebuild this part...I might just do this instead..
http://toyota.off-road.com/trucks-4x...ild-18483.html
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yeah it's really not that difficult at all to do, and it's a LOT cheaper! and you'll end up with a one that's like brand new in the end
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Originally Posted by norcal707
i just found a good site on how to rebuild this part...I might just do this instead..
http://toyota.off-road.com/trucks-4x...ild-18483.html
That's similar to the one I used to do mine.
I thought there was on on here, too...

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Here are some more links on rebuilding the idler:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...er-arm-179554/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...number-200635/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...ld-how-144151/
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/idler/

The Moog arm, which Travis and I are using, has a double tapered bearing race, which is less strong than the stock design: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51209963 Having said that, it has been working fine for me but I have just been driving on the road since I got it.

So rebuilding your arm has not just a cost but a strength advantage over the Moog. Keep in mind the later year vehicles use a different size bushing, so as Fink suggested it's probably safest to get them from the dealer. You may be able to get a new dust boot from them, too.

If you wanted to buy a stock style arm, the Beck/Arnley from rockauto would probably be a good bet (many of B/A's steering parts are Sankei, which is the maker of the oem parts you would get from the dealer. But from the pic, it doesn't look like their idler is a Sankei). autohausaz carries the Sankei. I think NAPA carries the oem style from a couple different suppliers.
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Originally Posted by sb5walker
Here are some more links on rebuilding the idler:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...er-arm-179554/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...number-200635/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...ld-how-144151/
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/idler/

The Moog arm, which Travis and I are using, has a double tapered bearing race, which is less strong than the stock design: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51209963 Having said that, it has been working fine for me but I have just been driving on the road since I got it.

So rebuilding your arm has not just a cost but a strength advantage over the Moog. Keep in mind the later year vehicles use a different size bushing, so as Fink suggested it's probably safest to get them from the dealer. You may be able to get a new dust boot from them, too.

If you wanted to buy a stock style arm, the Beck/Arnley from rockauto would probably be a good bet (many of B/A's steering parts are Sankei, which is the maker of the oem parts you would get from the dealer. But from the pic, it doesn't look like their idler is a Sankei). autohausaz carries the Sankei. I think NAPA carries the oem style from a couple different suppliers.


Great info!

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damn I just took off the idler arm apart and what a surprise....no bushings what so ever. here are some pics..
look how much of a play this part have.
pushing it up...can you tell the differernts
how durty this thing is.
top part of the idler arm...no bushing what so ever


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