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05+ Taco locker mod!!!
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sweet deal!!! this thread will be a sticky for sure
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Brilliant.
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see first post - updated link an info today on TTORA from ComAttack....
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Cool, that is the same info WATRD found for me last week.
I posted that info over on ih8mud's new FJ Cruiser forum.
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Anyone done it yet????
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I just did it tonight on '06 Taco 4wd TRD. It took about 2 hours counting the time it took to go down to Radio Shack and get the parts. Super easy. Directions were on the money. Works Killer. Nothing like spinning donuts in 2wd with both wheels spinning. Thanks to all those who put in all the effort so the rest of us can reep the rewards.
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I did it, works great.
There are a 3 things that you need to be sure of when you do this. First, there's 2 connectors going to the 4WD ECM. Make sure you tap into the wires going to the correct connector. There is a drawing in one of the links above showing the pin side of the connector, which also shows the shape of the connector. The other connector is shaped different, so it shouldn't be hard to tell. Both connectors have some wires that are colored the same, so this could lead to a mistake. Make sure you have the right connector. Second, in the wiring diagram supplied in one of the links above, most of the wires you need to look for are numbered. The drawing of the connector has all of the pins numbered, so if there is any question about what color the wires are (light blue looked like medium blue to me, pink and red looked similer), you can refer to the pin numbers to find the associated wire. Third, there are wires that you have to cut. You will splice into the wire on the harness side, and will need to insulate the wire on the connector side with tape or heat shrink so that it doesn't short out against anything.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 07-03-2007 at 02:31 PM. |
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Locker Mod Heeeeeelp!!
I just finished the locker mod and my diff is locked full time and won't unlock and all my 4wd lights are on. WTF?! Did I hook a wire up wrong? It's definitely locked but won't unlock. Also, ABS lights are on too! Please help ASAP!!!! I cut the little blue wire first, which was the wrong one, but I hooked it back up. Do I need to unhook my battery and let my computer reset? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.
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Can't hurt to reset the computer, try that and see what happens. I'm just guessing but, you probably need to look at the schematic again, you probably have a wire hooked up incorrectly. It looks kind of confusing to me, which is why I haven't gotten the nerve to do it yet. Too bad it's not as easy as the gray wire mod.
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from what I can tell, everything is hooked up right. Although it appears there are 2 pink wires, unless one is red, but they look the exact same color. Maybe I've got the wrong one. I'm afraid to start switching wires in fear of doing damage, if I haven't already. I'm blowing the 4wd fuse in the dash and the 10A IGN fuse everytime I try to engage the locker. So now my windows won't roll down and my heater fan doesn't work. Is there a better schematic anywhere that shows the wires a little better?
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ok, I triple checked all my hook-ups. 100% right. Is it possible that my relay is bad?? I bought the double pole, double throw 10A relay. Do I need to step up to a 20A? I'm baffled. Everytime I try to engage the locker I blow fuses. I've got wires 1, 2, 13, 16, and 21 hooked up to the proper poles, throws, and coil contacts. I tapped the white/black wire for my ground like it said I could. I don't know what else to do. Anyone who has done this mod, please let me know if you had any issues. You can PM me if you like. Thanks.
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You might can swap the relay with another one to see if the relay is bad. I bought an extra one when I did mine, just in case mine goes bad. However, both the fact that it is a new relay, and my experience as a industrial electrician tell me that a relay isn't likely to be bad in a way that would cause fuses to blow (assuming it IS the right relay for the job). However, you should check that the relay coil is rated for 12 VDC (volts direct current). If the coil is rated otherwise, it could cause a fuse or fuses in the power circuit that feeds power to the relay coil to blow when the coil is energized. Using a relay with the wrong voltage rating could also possibly cause the coil to go bad when energized, which could also blow the fuse. Let us know what you find.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 12-13-2008 at 03:32 PM. |
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found the problem. my computer wouldn't bring up the file for the locker mod the other day so I had my buddy look it up and he "said" he wrote it down word for word. I hooked it up the way he had it wrote down... he didn't write down to hook the wires on the harness side, he told me it said to hook up the connector side. So what could have possibly been damaged?? Also, the relay I have is rated for 110V AC or 24V DC. Does this mean that I need 24 v dc to run it or that its rated for UPTO 24v?
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Black 2006 Tacoma double cab short bed TRD 4x4 4.0L 6 speed 3" tuff country lift and 265/75 maxxis mudders for now Last edited by ohioyotaguy; 12-14-2008 at 09:48 AM. |
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The contact voltage limits you listed are fine for a 12 VDC application, because the voltage used is less than the 24 VDC maximum. But the COIL has to be rated for the voltage (12 volts) and type of current used (direct current, or DC). The coil voltage rating will usually be only one voltage, not a range of voltages or dual voltages and types like the contacts usually are. You should buy the proper relay and wire it up properly, and properly re-splice any wires that were mistakenly cut. Only after you have wired up everything correctly and installed the proper relay, then you can figure out if there is any damage. Hopefully, the fuses protected any other components from damage.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 12-14-2008 at 07:25 PM. |
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Ok, I got the right relay. Hooked it up and replaced the two fuses that I knew were blown... all the lights are off and my 4wd works again. I think I still have a fuse blown because my locker won't engage. I need to investigate and hopefully I didn't fry my locker motor. Thanks for all the help.
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No problem. Glad I could help.
If I understand correctly, the locker motor energizes only long enough to change state, which means it is only energized during the time it takes to lock or unlock the locker. Once locked or unlocked, the motor stays de-energized until given the command to change state again. Unless it somehow was wired to stay energized constantly and was sitting there locked or unlocked (overheating while trying to turn and couldn't), the motor should be fine. Otherwise, there is no way that I can picture it going bad. So yea, another fuse could very well be blown, or maybe a wire that you had previously had cut wasn't properly spliced back together. Whatever the case, my experience has shown that if another fuse isn't blown, the problem is most likely something you worked on, and the problem would be found where you were working at. Just consider this a learning experience. If you never dive in and try to get the job done yourself, you won't make mistakes and learn from them. Now you know more than some people do about automotive electrical systems, and the next time you work on something it will be easier. Just don't let this intimidate you. Oh yea, one more thing: You may need to drive down a road (preferably dirt) and try locking the locker. If the locking mechanism isn't lined up inside the differential, it won't lock or indicate locked until it is. So you may just need to drive and make a turn in one direction or the other until the locking mechanism engages. Likewise, the mechanism may not disengage until you drive a little bit because it may be bound up. Making a turn in one direction or the other will relieve the binding long enough to allow it to disengage.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 12-15-2008 at 08:45 AM. |
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I can't find any blown fuses and my locker still won't lock or even show that's it's locked. Any ideas what I may have done? Everything with my 4wd works great but not my locker. Thanks. Could I have burnt up the motor?? If so, how much is a new one?
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What you will have to do is get a multimeter (measures volts/ohms/amps), and a wiring diagram for the locker motor itself.
Find out which wires energize the motor itself. Find the harness connector closest to the motor. You may have to leave the connector connected in order to make a voltage check on the wires going to the motor, so that it will at least attempt to engage when the button is pushed, because there are probably switches in the locker mechanism that tell the computer that it's okay to energize the motor. If so, take a knife and CAREFULLY skim back the insulation on the wires and measure the voltage while someone pushes the button. Assuming you are on the right wires, if there is about 12.5-13.0 +/- volts there when the button is pushed and the motor isn't trying to engage, the motor is bad. If there is no voltage, the problem is elsewhere. Once it's checked, carefully tape the wires up, making sure they are well insulated. Like I said, unless the motor was energized when it wasn't supposed to be, which would cause it to keep trying to lock when it is already locked or keep trying to unlock when it was already unlocked, the motor isn't likely to be bad. I have no idea how much a motor costs. I don't think they go bad often, so it may be hard to find someone on here that has had to replace it. I would call a Toyota dealer. Some auto parts places may carry remanufactured units, so price them too. Sometimes NAPA carries things like this that other places don't carry, things that typically are dealer only items. But make sure the motor is actually bad before you replace it. The ECU may have gone bad. EDIT: Page 3 of the first link shown above has a good diagram. It looks like the factory diagram, but it does show which wires go to the motor itself (LT Blue and LT Green from the switch, LT Green/red and LT Green at the motor). You can also check for voltage leaving the relay on the wires going to the motor.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 12-16-2008 at 09:54 AM. |
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ok, found the problem. I somehow burnt something out in my locker switch. My locker DOES engage and disengage and is working fine, but the light in the dash isn't coming on. I don't know what's causing this, and I'm not really concerned as long as my locker keeps working fine. Eventually I'll buy a new switch, but I'm content for the time being. My locker light DOES come on at start up but never again after that. I don't know if there's a sensor in the switch that tells you your locker is locked and that's what I fried, I'm just not sure. Next I'm tackling the foglight mod. HAHA. I'll be sure to read the directions 3 times before I do that though. Thanks for all your help William, I owe you greatly. Also, thanks everyone else. I can stop having a panic attack about my locker motor now. Until next time.....
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No problem at all. I'm glad to have been able to help.
I once had a guy here that basically told me that anything I had to say was of no use and that I had no mechanical ability whatsoever (I think his name was merace19). I'm glad that, not only was I able to help you, but that I could also prove him wrong.
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'06 Tacoma TRD 4wd 4 door short bed. Rear locker mod (can use in high range and 2wd now). Skyjacker 3" lift struts with new rear springs and shocks. Home made spacers in front for another 3/4" lift. Roadmaster overload springs in the rear for another 7/8" lift, and better carrying/towing ability. 285/75-16 BFG All Terrains. More to come. '08 Yamaha FJR1300 with ABS and power adjustable windshield. '06 Yamaha Wolverine 450 sport/4wd ATV Last edited by William; 01-09-2009 at 12:51 AM. |
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