shancerlelby

wow rare breed to have a 22r and afm, maybe you can pickup a tenth in the quarter mith that mod

annoyingrob

Har har, you know I meant 22R-E AFM.

Anyways, I had some spare time today, so I plugged the 82 Supra AFM onto the RTE. The temp sensor is shot on it, and threw a code, but the vehicle ran and boosted otherwise fine (although really rich. Needs a tension adjustment). The Supra AFM is a 2.5"x2" opening, making it 20% larger than the 22R-E's 2"x2" opening. It also has a 3" pipe inlet, and outlet.

874Runnersr5: I talked to him today, he's looking around for it. If not, I can mod you up a later gen one, or possibly sell you mine when I replace the temp sensor. I have a megasquirt unit ready to install in this truck, so I won't be using the AFM for much longer anyways.

The whole swapping 22R-E electronics into later 5M AFMs is actually pretty common in the Celica world. It's pretty easy if you're handy with small parts, and a soldering iron, it's pretty easy.

874runnersr5

hmm, keep me posted.

BigBluePile

iTrader: (3)

Cool, I'm still interested in this swap. I figure if I can't get a hold of the plug-n-play one atleast I can swap guts. I'm pretty good with delicate/small electronics, so I'm not worried.

abecedarian

you don't get a TPS with a 22R...and it has an AFM?

ebow951

Great information on testing the wiring harness on a 22RE.
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/AFM/index.shtml

Mentions the reason why the 1982 Toyota Celica Supra Mark2 5GME AFM is different than the other years. It used a 9-to-0 volt output instead of the 0-5 used from ’83 until ‘85.5. If using from 83-85.5 the circuit board will have to be swapped and re-soldered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_M_engine

This thread shows a swap with reusing 22RE circuit board.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...m-22re-135202/

There are masses of posts on this topic that should answer most any question, if you check out the search feature.

Hey Logan! The push bar is almost ready for a full install. Got a new winch and lights wired clean. Just waiting for the bottom brackets, which are getting fabbed to accommodate a future body lift. Pics soon.

Junkers88

So if I read that right, I might not have since electronics confuse me easily, it's saying that the 82 Toyota Celica Supra AFM is a direct swap for the 22re AFM but years other than 82 will have to be modified?

ebow951

That's what it's saying, yup. '82 was the only year for the direct swap. For how common this mod is there is a lot of confusion surrounding it. I've found Celica forums to be useful.

Here's a great thread with comparison pictures, part numbers, and a installed picture with a 180 degree bend, something I want to do to make room for dual batteries.
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=594281

I've noticed on many sites the part number listed as #22250-43110 & #197100-3020 (both are printed on top). #22250-43110 is the commonly used number.

ebow951

Junker, I just noticed you've already done a swap with an '82 from your post on the LC air intake thread. It looks great. Did you get lucky with the year or did you already know '82 was the magical year?

The filter, AFM, and piping look clean, keep it coming.

Junkers88

I asked a lot of questions to find out that the 82 was the only year that is a direct swap and I had to dig through a pile if AFM's to find the right part numbers. That link you posted up is the first hard info that I've seen that confirms that 82 is the magic year. I just sent lots of PM's and emails to folks that had already done it to find out which AFM was a plug-n-play.

Thanks for the compliment! I'll be doing the same conversion on my 4runner when it gets here.

Matt16

I need to know whether its just the connection from the plug to the circuitboard that needs soldering or is there more to the swap?

Good link, this is what i want to do, and install dual batteries as well.

BigBluePile

iTrader: (3)

Hey man!! Heck if I'd have know that you knew so much about this supra afm stuff I'd have PM'd ya!!! lol! Glad to hear your winch bumper is coming along!!! Got pics yet???

Matt16

I found an '82 in BC, but its $150. WTH

Junkers88

Matt finding one is hard enough, deciding if paying what the seller wants for it for the gains is even worse. I got unlucky in that the first one I found (wrong part number) was only 16$ but consider myself very lucky to have found one that was right for just under 70$. If you can wait for a few days I'll be able to go back to the yard and see if they have any more. Although I can't send you one for free I'll only charge you what they did (I'll send a copy of the vendors reciept along) plus whatever shipping will be.

That is if I can find more than one since I need one for the 4runner.

I'll keep you posted.

edit: I forgot to add that a new one from NAPA is almost 700$ so 150$ might not be too bad if it's all you can come up with and I can't find any down here.

874runnersr5

apperently my friend found one for me, he's getting back to me with the part number..
time will tell.
Should i run the supra maf and a cone filter?

Junkers88

I run a small cone type filter. I think it's a Spectre. I posted up a picture of the set up in another thread somewhere with the battery swap.

The pictures are in this thread. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ke-kit-166450/

874runnersr5

does the supra maf need a adapter cone? or is it like the 22re one that needs the adapter for the cone?

Junkers88

Adapter cone?

In the pictures the filter you see slides directly on the MAF.

874runnersr5

OH neat, i though it needed that thing that bolts onto the afm that allows you to run a cone filter setup.

ebow951

Matt, where in BC are you?

I just stopped into Lordco for something else and asked about the part. They wanted $450 new.

A guy wants $150 used? For that I'd just grab a '83-85.5 and do the mod. I'm gonna do this mod myself soon, so I'd lend a hand if your in the GVRD.

Hey Logan, check out one of my latest threads. I posted a few preview pics for you before I post the whole build.