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Old 10-12-2007, 09:13 PM
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really bad knock

well thats about it she has a bad knock at over 2.5k and i think its the chain cause it is very very loose about an inch and a half of play shes a 22re 5 speed efi need help and its not ping even though its an inch passed the timing dohicky thingamabob any ideas on what this knock is?
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Motor Knock

Replace the chain by all means , a chain or belt slapping would cause to me a different noise than a bearing knock , hope you don't have both , take care of the chain and go from there , if you still have the knock then I would have to say go from there , hope its not a main , if it was you should probably hear it on a cold start up also . If its still there get a stethoscope and check for the knock and where it is .

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Originally Posted by n4ynu1010
Replace the chain by all means , I guess that means if you have a cam belt that it is probably in the same shape , a chain or belt slapping would cause to me a different noise that a bearing knock , hope you don't have both , take care of the chain and or the cam belt (if you havn't replaced recently) and go from there , if you still have the knock then I would have to say go from there , hope its not a main , if it was you should probably hear it on a cold start up also . If its still there get a stethoscope and check for the knock and where it is .
cam belt?
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if your getting a knock its not from the chain that makes a slapping/grinding sound) or a growl. Use a stethoscope and find out where the knock is coming from before you go and do the chain... no sence waisting time if you decide to junk the engine
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cam belt?
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Originally Posted by longhungsilver
cam belt?
Modified / Edited , lost my mind there , have a chain and a valve timing belt hehe
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How much slack in the timing chain is acceptable? I had the cover off to do the valves the other day and looked around, pushed on the chain with a screwdriver and everything looks fine to me. Then I realized I have no idea how much chain deflection is ok.--and I have that strange diesel rattle sound at start up .
'94 22re 80,000 miles
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How much slack in the timing chain is acceptable? I had the cover off to do the valves the other day and looked around, pushed on the chain with a screwdriver and everything looks fine to me. Then I realized I have no idea how much chain deflection is ok.--and I have that strange diesel rattle sound at start up .
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Heres the FSM Timing Chain Breakdown :

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-buchanan/93fsm/engine/8timingch.pdf

Did you get a look at your guide/tensioner and see how that looked , manual will show you
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Originally Posted by SC2WD
How much slack in the timing chain is acceptable? I had the cover off to do the valves the other day and looked around, pushed on the chain with a screwdriver and everything looks fine to me. Then I realized I have no idea how much chain deflection is ok.--and I have that strange diesel rattle sound at start up .
'94 22re 80,000 miles
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And if it hasn't ever been replaced at 80K is a real good time to eliminate that problem
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yeah it locked up guys but its all good now all painted and readdy to get put back together yay
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I'll look through the manual and see how it looks. The guides looked fine. Couldn't see any broken pieces or anything...
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Thats a lot of work. Is there any way to check the chain wear with just the valve cover off? Obviously, it won't be as accurate but...Like I mentioned above, what is the allowable amount of deflection? If there is no easy way, and if 80,000 seems like a good time to do it, I may just schedule the weekend and make it happen.
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Timing Chain

Originally Posted by SC2WD
Thats a lot of work. Is there any way to check the chain wear with just the valve cover off? Obviously, it won't be as accurate but...Like I mentioned above, what is the allowable amount of deflection? If there is no easy way, and if 80,000 seems like a good time to do it, I may just schedule the weekend and make it happen.
Thanks again,
JL
If it were me and I had it down that far at 80K I know I would change it just so I know its good for a long while , they have a test in the FSM for it but you have to remove chain and measure links to determine stretch of chain , its like 17 links you measure and then spec's for measurement.

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