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OK.
For those of you following my thread https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...thread-188472/ , you know I am currently at the point where I need to get my oil pan off to clean it out to do a decent job in doing a head gasket / timing chain and cover replacement job.

This will only pertain to those doing this while leaving the block in the truck.

suggestions welcomed.

For those who have ever done this job (oil pan removal) I would love to hear tips and tricks as well as (most importantly) see pics of how it is done.

This thread is going to be a work-in-progress, since I am CURRENTLY doing this.

Unlike my other thread, I would like to NOT clutter this one up with any off-topic stuff...feel free to post that in my other thread.

It's going to take some time , but I am going to try to post all the pertinent stuff right here, right now.

I have SEVERAL links to other threads I will be posting up here as a result of much searching.

Here goes....

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to the readers: I pasting some text from my other thread....see below.
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found 14 threads......NO, I have not read though them. If anyone has, save me the trouble and tell me if one fits my request

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f115...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/2...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/2...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...n+removal+22re
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...n+removal+22re

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saved for me

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...estion-182801/

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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...emoval-163215/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f115...4runner-94804/

Excellent thread but not about pan removal
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...nt-pics-88722/

ok
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...92/index2.html


VERY GOOD
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...kup-how-14413/

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If anyone has actual pctures that correspond to this thread, it would be greatly appreciated
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/o...kup-how-14413/


I think I'm going to PM and ask if he could label these pictures and give how-to-remove instructions for this thread
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ctures-191399/

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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingbrass View Post
I didn't look through all the links, but 2 show or describe removing the front crossmember to lower the diff. Is that a good idea? I read a post somewhere saying not to.

With weight on the front I'd worry about things going out of whack. Is that a valid concern?
any concern is valid until i hear otherwise. I need to at least get jack stands before I do anything crazy.

I'm concerned about jacking the motor...for a few reasons. 1 is that I'm essentially a 1-man show. 2nd is I'm concerned about the fuel line, 3rd is since I'm by myself, I'm not going to be able to be watching the engine bay and under the truck at the same time raising or lowering.

If rolling the diff down is what I need to do, I will do it, I just wish I could have some pics with circles and arrows and a shopping list of what to do.

I may just post some pics and ask everybody to mark them up for me with what they know.
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Pardon me....doing some sorting.......for my reference......

On PARTYPEEPERS THREAD https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...99/index4.html , JAY351 said "I simply unbolted the 3 diff mounts and I was able to rotate the diff down out of the way. I didn't have to touch that brace.

I did have to unbolt the oil pickup tube before I was able to pull the pan out."

Gonna be posting some pics of PARTYPEEPERS's as well....I did PM him yesterday seeing if he could post those pics with labels. If not, maybe someone else would, especially regarding the quote of JAY351, maybe someone could point out what he's talking about.

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Totally giving credit to PARTYPEEPERS for these excellent pictures from his thread.

Hopefully someone could mark these pictures and give me some guidance.

Next 4 pictures are NOT my truck , this is from PARTYPEEPERS's thread.......









And, of course, if anyone has good pictures, post them up.

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see above...ef....pics won't paste

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copied from another thread.......

Oil Pan removal on 2nd Gen 4WD Pickup - HOW TO

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Everyone,

I'm in the process of doing a new head/cam/etc./etc. to my 89 4WD PU. The motor is a rebuilt 22RE that had less than 600 miles on it when the headgasket blew.

One thing led to another, and after I wound up cracking the old head by overtightening some header bolts (part of the reason the gasket blew, I believe) .... :pat:

I decided it was time to put a new head and cam on from engnbldr.com and a host of other mods.

I decided not to pull the engine again, so I was left with getting the oil pan out by hand. I decided I had to remove the oil pan in order to remove some of the gunk (coolant) that got in there when the head gasket blew. I wound up doing a bit of research on the process and determined that it was going to be a bit of a job, as the 'right' way to do the job is to move some of the front end to get the pan out. I went through the process in a day and I wanted to share it w/ everyone in hopes this will help someone else out sometime down the road.

1. Jack up the truck and put it on jack stands and then put the jack under the front diff.

2. Remove the 4 bolts from the swaybar that runs under the transfer case/tranny and front drive shaft and let the sway bar hang down and out of the way. This has to be lowered to give the differential enough room to drop.

3. Remove the front crossmember (5 bolts). 4 of the bolts are facing you laying down in front of the truck and the 5th bolt is in the huge mounting grommet on the front differential.

4. Remove the 2 bolts from each of the remaining 2 front differential mounts and lower the front diff about a good 6-8 inches by lowering the jack. The first 2 bolts are to the right of the front diff (facing it) and are by the driver's side CV boot. The other 2 are 'behind' the face of the differential and mount the top of the diff to a huge mounting braket on the passenger side. You'll get to these by going behind the diff under the truck. They are close to the passenger-side swaybar grommet. Kind of go 'up and over' the back of the front diff and you'll find them.

5. At this point, the front diff is lowered a good bit and, assuming you've unbolted the oil pan, it will move around really well, but still won't come out.

6. Unbolt the steering dampener (1 bolt) and let it drop out of the way. The dampner looks like a small black shock absorber that attaches to the steering relay rod. The relay rod is the rod that is attached to the pittman arm (driver's side) and the idler arm (passenger side).

7. I had to run out to Autozone to get a ball-joint separator so I could pull the relay rod off of the pitman rod end. Get a small screw-type seperator and not a wedge type so you won't tear up the rubber seals. Once I did that, the relay rod would swing down and out of the way, and I was then able to pull the pan out of the front (it won't come out of the rear, as you would think).

8. Oh yeah, I also had to unbolt the oil pump pickup tube (4 bolts) and let it drop into the pan. After that, the pan comes right out.

The installation of the pan, is, as they say, the reverse of removal.

Once the pan is out of the way, you can get a gasket scraper/die grinder/whatever up to the block to do a good cleaning job. Just make sure you torque everything to spec and don't overtighten the oil pan bolts.

Other than that, the whole 'sub-project' went pretty well. I had to use a second scissors jack in order to help jack the differential back up in a few key areas so I could align the bolt holes. Otherwise, it all went right back together as it came apart.

Hope this helps someone else out... I couldn't find anything resembling a write-up on the net and the Chilton/Haynes manuals were less than helpfull when it came to details.

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Last edited by AllCammedUp; 07-21-2003 at 11:43 PM.

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OK ...back to today. all the above posts were copied from my thread

For some stupid reason when I quote from my other thread it does not post the pics.

I will post up as many pics as possible

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And, Like I said, please don't clutter up this thread. any comments, productive or counter-productive ( ) put them on my other thread.

since we all know how threads can and do wander, and mine is a prime example of it, let's keep this as a pure 'how-to" thread.

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So anyway.....before I go searching for pics to post up....let me just give you a current status:

pan is still on, sway bar disconnected where it mounts to the frame (and by disconnected , I mean i snapped all 4 bolts trying to un-bolt it) but the connects??? are still connected and will have to be cut off.

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And , yes, of course, this job would be much easier if I pulled the block.

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PICS:

Let's start off with why I am doing this











If you look hard enough, you can see part of the timing chain guide wedged between the distributor gear and the cam gear



Initial pic of the inside of the timing cover while still attached showing the breached area



MINUS the cover.





a slightly better pic of the inside of the cover



and minus the water pump, but looking from the water pump side into the timing cover to see the split.



VERY worn TENSIONER



Ok...so thats WHY I am doing this.

Now, I will post some pics about the oil pan

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These pics are hijacked from member PARTYPEEPERS thread.

I just wish he would have explained a little about each pic..

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PICS from the FSM

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a pic of my mess from underneath



a pic, I used to try to make my truck look like PARTYPEEPERS



different view of mine



This pic is the reason why I am sooooo nervous about jacking up the engine.....lots of crap to get crushed



Before I REALLY was sure I was going to be safe under there, i had to buy these



while using THESE as well