FJ80 coils vs. 2nd Gen stock coils

TC4RNR · 08-26-2007, 03:19 PM

recently there are few members pm'd me regarding a pair of 80 coils i put for sale on the forum. they were not buying but asking me some questions about the specs of these coils. i thought instead of replying few people individually, i'd start a new thread just to present some raw data on these coils side by side with the factory ones. i wish i know this before i bought them.

here is the first picture, left to right: 80 driver side coil, 80 pass. side, 2nd gen stock.

this pic shows the difference between the 80 driver side and pass side.

80 driver side coil length: 18-1/4"

80 pass. side coil length: 18-3/4"

2nd Gen stock coil length: 14-1/4"

here are the coil wire dia. my caliper is out of battery, so take a guess.

80 coil

2nd Gen stock

O/D of 80 coil: 7" top, under frame when installed.

O/D of 2nd Gen stock: 6-1/2"

O/D of 80 coil, 5-1/4", bottom over axle when installed.

O/D of 2nd Gen stock: 5"

i don't have the OME 901 springs to compare, but take a look at when i put the 80 springs in the 901 spring box, you got the idea.

my 94 with stock springs/shocks, torsion bars cranked up all the way.

ride hight from ground to top of rear wheel well 34-1/2"

same front setup, but with 80 coils, OME shocks.

ride hight: 38-1/4"

bottom line, if one wants a 3.5" suspension lift, 80 springs are great, if for 2", can't go wrong with OME's(which i did later)

now, she is with the setup in my sig.

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AUYota · 08-26-2007, 04:14 PM

Those coils are a 100% improvement, I think I'm going to order some soon.

traben27 · 08-26-2007, 07:20 PM

Why did you switch from the fj80 coils to the OME? Just wondering as I have the FJ80's...

TC4RNR · 08-26-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traben27

Why did you switch from the fj80 coils to the OME? Just wondering as I have the FJ80's...

i guess it's different strokes for different folks, for me, it get too much lift in the rear than i wanted. also, the ride is bit harsh than i expected.

slosurfer · 08-26-2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC4RNR

i guess it's different strokes for different folks, for me, it get too much lift in the rear than i wanted. also, the ride is bit harsh than i expected.

It should be said that part of the harsh ride, were the shocks that were way too short for the 80 coils. When they are maxed out just sitting in the parking lot, they are not going to do any good, so it really is unfair to say that the coils were too harsh. The shocks you have are a much better match for the coils you have now. Glad you found something that worked for you.

As for not being told about the cruiser coils before you bought them, you should reread your thread asking about coils on mud.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=156743

I say this because I hate it when people ask questions, get the answers they need, still do what they want, and then act like they were led astray. This thread is good though, it shows that you need to really listen and do your homework before working on your rig.

TC4RNR · 08-26-2007, 08:47 PM

edit:
here is what i've learned after my lift.

imho, doing a 3.5 lift with 80 coils on a 2nd Gen. is very different than a 2" lift. different in terms of parts cost, labor cost, viechle down time, etc. 2" lift is a lot easier and more prictical. most people want lift because of the bigger tires. for 35" and bigger tires is another story because of the gears matter of fact very few 4Runners have factory 4.88's. for 33" and under, 2" is more than enough, 3.5" lift is over kill. for 3.5" lift the main problem i encountered was how to bring the truck to level, it went from "saggy butt" to "sinking nose", i notices my headlights wont' light up farther than 30 feet ahead. fully cranked torsin bars won't do the job as you can see from the picture i posted. plus the tor CV's are in a steep angle, too. front body lift will solve the hight problem but that's another can of worm, diff., t-case drop are needed too. 2" lift is simple and low cost, most importantly it works.

true, we all make mistakes from doing things others told us not to, but that's how we learn. that's how i want others know why i ditched the 80's(but don't want to type it over and over when answering pm's).

"i wish i know this before i bought them"
i couldn't find the info i posted in this thread then, and others still want to know now.

slosurfer · 08-26-2007, 09:49 PM

I am glad that you have found what you want. Your rig looks really good and I am sure that you are learning tons about it as you work on it.

TC4RNR · 08-26-2007, 10:34 PM

i edited reply above. i do appreciate your help. i think that's some mis-understanding.

4runnerguy · 01-09-2008, 09:26 AM

i have one question were do u guys order your cruiser coils from i live in canada ontario and if called place after place and nothin yet and when u get to find them what do u ask for

run4her · 01-09-2008, 09:57 AM

My cruiser coils are super flexy and soft

TC4RNR · 01-09-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by run4her

My cruiser coils are super flexy and soft

accroding to the PO of the fj80, these coils were taken out and replaced with after market ones after 10k miles, there have been sitting in the garage for many years. maybe that's why there are so stiff. even with the t-bars cranked all the way up, the rear is still noticeablely taller than front. when i put in 4WD, very loud binding noise from the front axle when making a big loopy turn. so i know i have to relax the t-bars. trans drop is just too much work, and the rear needs longer shocks, too. with the front tipped, my headlights beam won't go further than 10 feet out, with my poor night time eyesight, i felt very very uncomfy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4runnerguy

i have one question were do u guys order your cruiser coils from i live in canada ontario and if called place after place and nothin yet and when u get to find them what do u ask for

$30-40 USD. i paid $40 because they were in like new condition, paint was still shine, and not a single rust spot.

idayota · 01-09-2008, 10:48 AM

why you had the 80 coils on i assume you had your bj spacers on too...is that correct?

TC4RNR · 01-09-2008, 12:08 PM

bj spacers were added on later. fj80 coils+OME shocks were the first thing i did on the Runner, then OME coils, then BJ spacers and ProComp shocks for the front.

4runnerguy · 01-09-2008, 12:11 PM

that question is were do u guys get your fj80 coils

elripster · 01-09-2008, 12:17 PM

This is good stuff to know.

There is one detail which as nothing to do with the lift but could use some elaboration so as not to mislead people.

the 4.88 gear option was available on 2nd gen 4runners with automatic transmissions and 31" tires. That ratio is not meant for 33's with that set up so one should expect some adverse affects on drive quality if they combine larger tires with 4.88's and an automatic. Now for a stick.. 4.88's are exactly what you want for 33's.

Now back on topic... I have 2nd gen coils, coil spacers and air shocks. I like the combo. It flexes very well on the trail and has excellent load bearing capability.

Frank

4runnerguy · 01-09-2008, 01:12 PM

is any one selling fj80 coils

idayota · 01-09-2008, 01:56 PM

so does anyone have any pictures of the fj80 coils, 2 inch bj spacers and a mild crank on the torsion bars just for the sake of comparison (without being loaded down with gear or a spare tire/heavy rear bumper)? i would be interested in seeing how different the fj 80's are from the ome with the front lifted with the bj spacers.

also, tc4rnr, are you currently sitting in the stock torsion bar position? do you notice much sag with the ome springs and weight in the back? thanks for you posts. we appreciate the comparisons.

traben27 · 01-09-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4runnerguy

is any one selling fj80 coils

Go look in the marketplace on here, I saw a few in there for sale I think.

elripster · 01-09-2008, 02:24 PM

Spacers only come in 1.5" max thickness. You can adjust more lift in if you want at the expense of longevity in other components.

Frank

idayota · 01-10-2008, 12:12 PM

good call frank...my mistake. anyone have any pictures with the 1.5" bj spacers and rear fj 80 coils? you see any done that way at sdori frank?

08-26-2007, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
AUYota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 190	Those coils are a 100% improvement, I think I'm going to order some soon. __________________ 1990 2nd Gen 4Runner/ 3VZE V6/ 4WD/ Air Lift/ 31 10.50 15" Firestone AT

08-26-2007, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
traben27 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: allen tx/provo ut Posts: 571	Why did you switch from the fj80 coils to the OME? Just wondering as I have the FJ80's... __________________ 94 4runner SR5 4x4

08-26-2007, 08:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
TC4RNR Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: used to be so. cal. now Indy Posts: 643	edit: here is what i've learned after my lift. imho, doing a 3.5 lift with 80 coils on a 2nd Gen. is very different than a 2" lift. different in terms of parts cost, labor cost, viechle down time, etc. 2" lift is a lot easier and more prictical. most people want lift because of the bigger tires. for 35" and bigger tires is another story because of the gears matter of fact very few 4Runners have factory 4.88's. for 33" and under, 2" is more than enough, 3.5" lift is over kill. for 3.5" lift the main problem i encountered was how to bring the truck to level, it went from "saggy butt" to "sinking nose", i notices my headlights wont' light up farther than 30 feet ahead. fully cranked torsin bars won't do the job as you can see from the picture i posted. plus the tor CV's are in a steep angle, too. front body lift will solve the hight problem but that's another can of worm, diff., t-case drop are needed too. 2" lift is simple and low cost, most importantly it works. true, we all make mistakes from doing things others told us not to, but that's how we learn. that's how i want others know why i ditched the 80's(but don't want to type it over and over when answering pm's). "i wish i know this before i bought them" i couldn't find the info i posted in this thread then, and others still want to know now. __________________ http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...gca/agreed.jpg 94 4Runner, SR5 3.0V6, 4WD, 5spd: SOLD 99 4Runner, SR5, 3.4L 4WD, 5spd. LC80 wheels, SS 1.2 lift, Marlin 1200 Clutch, ARB front bumper, BruceTS rear bumper, roof busket, hitch mount tire carrier, Tundra Brakes, Brembo rotors, BudBuilt skid, Lightforce 240 Blitz, PiAA HID, Stubb's HD-SKO sliders. ScanGauge II 04 4Runner SR5 V6 4WD. 265/75/16 BFG KO, FJC coils and silver Bilstein shocks, Scion H/U. Last edited by TC4RNR; 08-26-2007 at 10:31 PM.

08-26-2007, 09:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 2,155	I am glad that you have found what you want. Your rig looks really good and I am sure that you are learning tons about it as you work on it. __________________ Chris 7th Annual Pismo Jamboree: Sept. 25-27, 2009 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers Last edited by slosurfer; 08-26-2007 at 11:54 PM.

08-26-2007, 10:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
TC4RNR Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: used to be so. cal. now Indy Posts: 643	i edited reply above. i do appreciate your help. i think that's some mis-understanding. __________________ http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...gca/agreed.jpg 94 4Runner, SR5 3.0V6, 4WD, 5spd: SOLD 99 4Runner, SR5, 3.4L 4WD, 5spd. LC80 wheels, SS 1.2 lift, Marlin 1200 Clutch, ARB front bumper, BruceTS rear bumper, roof busket, hitch mount tire carrier, Tundra Brakes, Brembo rotors, BudBuilt skid, Lightforce 240 Blitz, PiAA HID, Stubb's HD-SKO sliders. ScanGauge II 04 4Runner SR5 V6 4WD. 265/75/16 BFG KO, FJC coils and silver Bilstein shocks, Scion H/U.

01-09-2008, 09:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
4runnerguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: canada, ontario Posts: 561	i have one question were do u guys order your cruiser coils from i live in canada ontario and if called place after place and nothin yet and when u get to find them what do u ask for

01-09-2008, 09:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
run4her Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 397	My cruiser coils are super flexy and soft __________________ 1990 4runner. 42/14/r.17 irocks, spool in front. Sas, lc coils and triangulated 4-link. 1in bodylift, 7in front screen linked to 14in flip down in rear, Chopped, Bobbed 33". Wheelbase stretched 7". 1984 extra cab pickup. 7" suspension lift, 36" Radial tsl's, Bobbed 12"

01-09-2008, 10:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 575	why you had the 80 coils on i assume you had your bj spacers on too...is that correct? __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!***

01-09-2008, 12:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
TC4RNR Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: used to be so. cal. now Indy Posts: 643	bj spacers were added on later. fj80 coils+OME shocks were the first thing i did on the Runner, then OME coils, then BJ spacers and ProComp shocks for the front. __________________ http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...gca/agreed.jpg 94 4Runner, SR5 3.0V6, 4WD, 5spd: SOLD 99 4Runner, SR5, 3.4L 4WD, 5spd. LC80 wheels, SS 1.2 lift, Marlin 1200 Clutch, ARB front bumper, BruceTS rear bumper, roof busket, hitch mount tire carrier, Tundra Brakes, Brembo rotors, BudBuilt skid, Lightforce 240 Blitz, PiAA HID, Stubb's HD-SKO sliders. ScanGauge II 04 4Runner SR5 V6 4WD. 265/75/16 BFG KO, FJC coils and silver Bilstein shocks, Scion H/U.

01-09-2008, 12:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
4runnerguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: canada, ontario Posts: 561	that question is were do u guys get your fj80 coils

01-09-2008, 12:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
elripster Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,344	This is good stuff to know. There is one detail which as nothing to do with the lift but could use some elaboration so as not to mislead people. the 4.88 gear option was available on 2nd gen 4runners with automatic transmissions and 31" tires. That ratio is not meant for 33's with that set up so one should expect some adverse affects on drive quality if they combine larger tires with 4.88's and an automatic. Now for a stick.. 4.88's are exactly what you want for 33's. Now back on topic... I have 2nd gen coils, coil spacers and air shocks. I like the combo. It flexes very well on the trail and has excellent load bearing capability. Frank __________________ 1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 5.71's, Truetrac (rear), 33's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos, Marlin rear bumper. www.sdori.com

01-09-2008, 01:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
4runnerguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: canada, ontario Posts: 561	is any one selling fj80 coils

01-09-2008, 01:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 575	so does anyone have any pictures of the fj80 coils, 2 inch bj spacers and a mild crank on the torsion bars just for the sake of comparison (without being loaded down with gear or a spare tire/heavy rear bumper)? i would be interested in seeing how different the fj 80's are from the ome with the front lifted with the bj spacers. also, tc4rnr, are you currently sitting in the stock torsion bar position? do you notice much sag with the ome springs and weight in the back? thanks for you posts. we appreciate the comparisons. __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!***

01-09-2008, 02:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
elripster Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,344	Spacers only come in 1.5" max thickness. You can adjust more lift in if you want at the expense of longevity in other components. Frank __________________ 1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 5.71's, Truetrac (rear), 33's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos, Marlin rear bumper. www.sdori.com

01-10-2008, 12:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 575	good call frank...my mistake. anyone have any pictures with the 1.5" bj spacers and rear fj 80 coils? you see any done that way at sdori frank? __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!***

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