Diesel conversion underway - Page 4

smiljko · 02-08-2006, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irott

I wish we would get D-4Ds stateside...

I wish we would get any non-Hino diesels stateside.

I believe that D-4D are not delivered to the USA because your diesel is not suitable(high on sulphur) for these modern common-rail motors, and thy would get clogged very fast.

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Praufet · 02-08-2006, 08:40 AM

That is changing either this year or next because of federal regulations.

irott · 02-08-2006, 09:57 PM

It seems like the L series Diesel engines are more reliable than the the 1KZ. But since the 1HD-FT and 1KD-FTV and all the other diesels are too new to get affordably the KZ still seems like a good option for those who want that awesome toyota diesel power.

**aviator** · 02-09-2006, 09:54 AM

Nah what killed the small diesel in NA was a really couple of really crappy motors from GM in the early 80s. They took a small gas 4cyl. and tried to "dieselize' it. The block could'nt handle it. They blew-up a lot. smoked like crazy a, and could'nt make power. They put the motor in the chevette I believe. That and the small market caused a lot of other builders to not bother with mods needed to pass emissions. Toyota offered the 2.0 4 diesel here until 1986 with a solid beam front axle, but the withdrew it for 1987. I asked the dealer at the time and he said that the emissions regs had changed and yota did'nt want to spend the money because the market was too small. aviator

trythis · 02-09-2006, 05:03 PM

they tried to do that desiel conversion in 6.2 gas engines in suburbans too, I think. They had the same problem, I wounder if a 22re could handle a deisel conversion, just in terms of heat and stress

suprathepeg · 02-09-2006, 06:09 PM

That 6.2 was a piece of junk. The dynamics of diesel design are totally different from gas.

Dieselyota · 02-26-2006, 08:45 PM

Well, I got herup and running... All I can say is that this engine is amazing! Lots of torque and power throughout the rev range. I'll post a video in a few days..

dirtykaw · 02-26-2006, 11:45 PM

Curious if you've had much luck with jarco halfcuts..for instance, was everything packed well? Clean?

I seem to remember hearing good and bad about them but I could be mistaken..

If you happen to do an accurate measurement of fuel economy when you finish that would be interesting to hear about

Dieselyota · 02-27-2006, 07:13 AM

I cant say enough good about Jarco. The ut was well shipped and represented VERY accurately...I highly recommend them. I'll post mileage figures when I get them in.

Blizzard · 02-27-2006, 08:20 AM

Hey Dieselyota, glad to hear you completed your swap.

It's strange in Japan and the UK the most average KZN-130's are automatics, and here in Spain all the 4Runners (Diesel or gas) were manuals, I think there's no automatic 3.0TD LHD 4Runner...

You need one of those now:

David

Dieselyota · 02-27-2006, 08:16 PM

Hey blizzard, what's the availability of LHD wiring harnesses over there for these vehicles?

Blizzard · 03-01-2006, 07:34 AM

I suppose there's no problem to get them in the stealer, but the cost will be expensive (At least uses to be).

In yards bad... They use to cut the wires...

But remember here we've KZN-130's with 1KZ-T engines, not 1KZ-TE.

David

Dieselyota · 03-01-2006, 08:20 AM

See what you can find on the lines of a wiring harness for a lhd engine wiring harness for a 2lte or ln130 body style.

jjenks0 · 03-02-2006, 11:06 AM

Is the 3rz a diesel?

irott · 03-02-2006, 10:45 PM

So how is this coming along?

I want to see video.

photomike72 · 12-20-2006, 08:47 PM

Any new info???

Bumpin' Yota · 12-20-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trythis

they tried to do that desiel conversion in 6.2 gas engines in suburbans too, I think. They had the same problem, I wounder if a 22re could handle a deisel conversion, just in terms of heat and stress

eeeh no. The 6.2 is the same block as the 6.5 which was a dedicated, from the ground up diesel. You are thinking of the 5.7 diesel, which GM attempted to convert. The 6.2 was FAR better and more reliable an engine albeit underpowered. The 6.5 was basically the same block punched out more, turbo charged and went to an electronic standyne IP in 94. The 3 big problems with todays 6.5 is the 21.3:1 CR (way too high for more boost than 15psi), indirect injection, and low nickel content block (main webs like to crack)....

Even still the last variant of the 6.5 before the introduction of the 6.6 duramaxx pushed the block to its limits with hp eclipsing 230hp and tq over 450tq...

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprathepeg

That 6.2 was a piece of junk. The dynamics of diesel design are totally different from gas.

Compared to today's diesels yes. For that matter the 6.5L I drive around and the 7.3 navistar I444 (old powerstroke) is too. But the 6.2 was infinately better than that damn 5.7.

Bumpin' Yota · 12-20-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselyota

See what you can find on the lines of a wiring harness for a lhd engine wiring harness for a 2lte or ln130 body style.

Have yall swapped anything else diesel into 2nd gen yota's? ISBs? 4bts? 6.5LTDs?

4runner4ever · 12-22-2006, 10:58 AM

In one of the first posts you mentioned using biodiesel.
If it's a 1KZ-TE you will have to have the injection pump rebuild with Viton O-rings (I think it was Viton).
We have a lot of those engines here, 1KZ-T and 1KZ-TE types, and the high pressure common rail injection pumps fail over time (read: short period, like months) when used with biodiesel.
I'm not making this up, this is based on experience over several years. Like 98% of the toyota van's, busses and 4X4's are diesel here in the Netherlands.
That makes my gasser quit rare here.

jungle_runner · 04-03-2007, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpbum21

i had planned to move the exhaust outside the frame on the driver's side to make room for the 2nd tank, but with this swap all of the dimendions and routing will change. besides, everything is on hold 'til i get the cash for the diesel swap

downey-toyota sells 14gal auxzillary tanks that mount nicely under the farme:

http://downeyoff-road.com/BodyComponents/index.htm

i will absolutely go diesel soon and get an extra tank ... i am yet to decide on an egnine ... i have an '88 22re ... thinking about a 1kz-te or a 6cyl 1hz ... but i am leaning more toward a 4cyl for economy and ease of the swap

Robrt32 · 04-03-2007, 02:27 PM

I really wish i could a deisel anything considering i could get free fuel.. That would be nice. My boss would let me fill out of his tank at no charge i'm sure.

Fergie · 04-03-2007, 02:37 PM

www.dieseltoyz.com

'Nuff said.

1TallTXn · 01-26-2009, 09:12 AM

dieselyota, curious what kind of mileage you're getting out of that 1kz and how you're liking it overall.

I've got an '88 22re 4Runner that I'm dreaming of stuffing a diesel in. Any idea how hard this is compared to the newer models? Would prefer the power of the 1kz vs the 2L, but I'm open to suggestions.

I do auto repair for a living and put a Cummins 6BT in a FJ60, so I should be able to handle the work.

93toyrunner · 01-26-2009, 10:44 AM

Ihave always wanted to do this swap so bad, I wish i lived in texas i would be at your shop before you knew it. I have an auto matic in mine right now the A340H is that what the trucks have that you are doing them in. if so do sell just the wiring kits if i did the swap myself then wanted you harness.

02-08-2006, 08:40 AM	#77 (permalink)
Praufet Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Worth/College Station, TX Posts: 835	That is changing either this year or next because of federal regulations. __________________ --Brian '94 4Runner SR5 4WD 285 Terra Grapplers on FJ80 wheels\|Rancho 9000s on all 4 corners\|Cruiser coils\|Marlin Rear brake line Stereo CDT Audio CL-61A\|CDT Audio CL-6X\|Profile 640 and Profile 600M\|Audiobahn 100Q

02-08-2006, 09:57 PM	#78 (permalink)
irott Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nevada/Tahoe Posts: 65	It seems like the L series Diesel engines are more reliable than the the 1KZ. But since the 1HD-FT and 1KD-FTV and all the other diesels are too new to get affordably the KZ still seems like a good option for those who want that awesome toyota diesel power. __________________ [1992 4runner Limited] ___________________________________________ 3.Slow (155k miles and still running strong)

02-09-2006, 09:54 AM	#79 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Nah what killed the small diesel in NA was a really couple of really crappy motors from GM in the early 80s. They took a small gas 4cyl. and tried to "dieselize' it. The block could'nt handle it. They blew-up a lot. smoked like crazy a, and could'nt make power. They put the motor in the chevette I believe. That and the small market caused a lot of other builders to not bother with mods needed to pass emissions. Toyota offered the 2.0 4 diesel here until 1986 with a solid beam front axle, but the withdrew it for 1987. I asked the dealer at the time and he said that the emissions regs had changed and yota did'nt want to spend the money because the market was too small. aviator __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

02-09-2006, 06:09 PM	#81 (permalink)
suprathepeg Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winnipeg Canada Posts: 789	That 6.2 was a piece of junk. The dynamics of diesel design are totally different from gas. __________________ 89 v6 SWB truck PROJECT "BLACK BEAUTY P&P heads, EB's OS SS valves,30 over on the bottom and deckedto zero, taurus fan mod.

02-27-2006, 08:20 AM	#85 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	Hey Dieselyota, glad to hear you completed your swap. It's strange in Japan and the UK the most average KZN-130's are automatics, and here in Spain all the 4Runners (Diesel or gas) were manuals, I think there's no automatic 3.0TD LHD 4Runner... You need one of those now: David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

02-09-2006, 05:03 PM	#80 (permalink)
trythis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 644	they tried to do that desiel conversion in 6.2 gas engines in suburbans too, I think. They had the same problem, I wounder if a 22re could handle a deisel conversion, just in terms of heat and stress

02-26-2006, 08:45 PM	#82 (permalink)
Dieselyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 89	Well, I got herup and running... All I can say is that this engine is amazing! Lots of torque and power throughout the rev range. I'll post a video in a few days..

02-26-2006, 11:45 PM	#83 (permalink)
dirtykaw Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland OR Posts: 34	Curious if you've had much luck with jarco halfcuts..for instance, was everything packed well? Clean? I seem to remember hearing good and bad about them but I could be mistaken.. If you happen to do an accurate measurement of fuel economy when you finish that would be interesting to hear about

02-27-2006, 07:13 AM	#84 (permalink)
Dieselyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 89	I cant say enough good about Jarco. The ut was well shipped and represented VERY accurately...I highly recommend them. I'll post mileage figures when I get them in.

02-27-2006, 08:16 PM	#86 (permalink)
Dieselyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 89	Hey blizzard, what's the availability of LHD wiring harnesses over there for these vehicles?

03-01-2006, 07:34 AM	#87 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	I suppose there's no problem to get them in the stealer, but the cost will be expensive (At least uses to be). In yards bad... They use to cut the wires... But remember here we've KZN-130's with 1KZ-T engines, not 1KZ-TE. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

03-01-2006, 08:20 AM	#88 (permalink)
Dieselyota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 89	See what you can find on the lines of a wiring harness for a lhd engine wiring harness for a 2lte or ln130 body style.

03-02-2006, 11:06 AM	#89 (permalink)
jjenks0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 147	Is the 3rz a diesel?

03-02-2006, 10:45 PM	#90 (permalink)
irott Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nevada/Tahoe Posts: 65	So how is this coming along? I want to see video. __________________ [1992 4runner Limited] ___________________________________________ 3.Slow (155k miles and still running strong)

12-20-2006, 08:47 PM	#91 (permalink)
photomike72 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 219	Any new info??? __________________ 1994 4Runner SR5 V6, 2nd HG, Downey headers and custom crossover, Aisin manual hubs, full OME suspension, Optima Red Top, Carsound hi-flow cat, Magnaflow with 2 1/4" pipe, K&N drop-in, Yakima rack, F/R diff breathers, BF Goodrich A/T's, ARB Bull Bar, "Highway Blaster" horns, more to come......

12-22-2006, 10:58 AM	#94 (permalink)
4runner4ever Contributing Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 408	In one of the first posts you mentioned using biodiesel. If it's a 1KZ-TE you will have to have the injection pump rebuild with Viton O-rings (I think it was Viton). We have a lot of those engines here, 1KZ-T and 1KZ-TE types, and the high pressure common rail injection pumps fail over time (read: short period, like months) when used with biodiesel. I'm not making this up, this is based on experience over several years. Like 98% of the toyota van's, busses and 4X4's are diesel here in the Netherlands. That makes my gasser quit rare here. __________________ '90 4R 2JZ-GE swap, headers, turbo and intercooler FR and RR LC axles coils and discs all around AllPro parking brake 305/70 R16 Yokohama MT 4.88 gears

04-03-2007, 02:27 PM	#96 (permalink)
Robrt32 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 413	I really wish i could a deisel anything considering i could get free fuel.. That would be nice. My boss would let me fill out of his tank at no charge i'm sure.

04-03-2007, 02:37 PM	#97 (permalink)
Fergie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 155	www.dieseltoyz.com 'Nuff said.

01-26-2009, 09:12 AM	#98 (permalink)
1TallTXn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: S DFW, TX Posts: 2	dieselyota, curious what kind of mileage you're getting out of that 1kz and how you're liking it overall. I've got an '88 22re 4Runner that I'm dreaming of stuffing a diesel in. Any idea how hard this is compared to the newer models? Would prefer the power of the 1kz vs the 2L, but I'm open to suggestions. I do auto repair for a living and put a Cummins 6BT in a FJ60, so I should be able to handle the work.

01-26-2009, 10:44 AM	#99 (permalink)
93toyrunner Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Appleton, WI Posts: 147	Ihave always wanted to do this swap so bad, I wish i lived in texas i would be at your shop before you knew it. I have an auto matic in mine right now the A340H is that what the trucks have that you are doing them in. if so do sell just the wiring kits if i did the swap myself then wanted you harness. __________________ 3.0, automatic, used 31x10.50 BFG MT's on 15x10 rebel wheels moog rear springs 14x,xxx miles, still so young

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