Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

Can main bearings break and slip out?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-08-2008, 06:28 PM
  #21  
Registered User
 
Cyberman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dillsburg, PA
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It almost looks like it could be part of a piston.
Old 12-08-2008, 06:33 PM
  #22  
Registered User
 
allnmstkn313's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not a crank bearing.

I'd take a peek at your timing chain and guides.
Old 12-08-2008, 09:30 PM
  #23  
Registered User
 
abecedarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
you can see how hard it would be for piece of a bearing, particularly as large as those pieces to slip out of the crank or connecting rod.
They'd have to make a 90 turn to get out past the web or throw:

also, none of the bearings have a 'lip' like the first photo.
I'm kinda in agreement that it looks more like piston pieces, or something left after some previous work.
Old 12-09-2008, 07:04 PM
  #24  
Registered User
 
sh0kk86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 680
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
could just be a messed up timing chain guide that got chewed up and bent(would have been originally straight...)
Old 12-09-2008, 07:10 PM
  #25  
Contributing Member
 
iamsuperbleeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lake City, Fl
Posts: 12,248
Received 29 Likes on 24 Posts
Originally Posted by sh0kk86
could just be a messed up timing chain guide that got chewed up and bent(would have been originally straight...)
I hate to quote myself, but...

Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder


AM timing chain guide?

lol, I dunno
but the OEMs are plastic...

er nylon...

er whatever...

it would have to be an upgraded metal guide set
Old 12-09-2008, 08:15 PM
  #26  
Registered User
 
91Toyota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 2,805
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
looks like a piece off of your timing cover. That would be my only guess.
Old 12-09-2008, 10:37 PM
  #27  
Registered User
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NW Ark on wooded ten acres...Ozarks at large!
Posts: 8,656
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Highly, highly unlikely that's a piece of bearing. If it were, the motor would be destroyed to point of an entire rebuild or all together a new motor. I mean you'd actually have to have blown a counter weight on the crankshaft. In which case, I can't see anyone logically leaving a piece of bearing in the pan. Doesn't make any sense.

What's more likely is that being a piece of the timing cover, as suggested. There is crescent form on the cover right around/below the crank sprocket for the chain that often gets shattered when a chain goes. I've seen it with my own motor as well as others on this forum that have shared their pics of destruction.
Old 12-09-2008, 10:42 PM
  #28  
Registered User
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NW Ark on wooded ten acres...Ozarks at large!
Posts: 8,656
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Well, what you really need to do to make absolutely certain is scratch the concave side of the shrapnel. If it is a bearing, there will be a copper tone to it underneath the apparent surface. Unless someone had aluminum bearings in it, OEM bearings are tri-metal with a lead babbit surface over a copper layer. I forget what the backing material is, though.
Old 12-10-2008, 06:21 AM
  #29  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
YotaJunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've got time to work on the engine today. I'll poke around with a flashlight and check the piston skirts. After having read the posts thus far, I'm now more inclined to guess that it's either a piece from the timing cover or piston skirt. The only reason why I thought it might have been a bearing was how the curvature of the broken piece matched up perfectly with a new main bearing.

The PO's only put on 200,000 km (that's only about 125k miles). Other than a high idle, the engine sounded fine. I only pulled the pan, because I already had the diff out and the oil pan had a leak.

I pulled the timing cover when I replaced the head earlier this year, but I don't recall seeing anything out of the ordinary. I'll pull the cover again and take a closer look for any missing chunks.

This has certainly been another learning experience. I guess there's always more to learn.

Stay tuned...
Old 12-10-2008, 09:11 AM
  #30  
Registered User
 
thook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: NW Ark on wooded ten acres...Ozarks at large!
Posts: 8,656
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
LIke I said, scratch the concave surface and look for the copper. That will help in determining.
Old 12-10-2008, 04:46 PM
  #31  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
YotaJunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mystery solved after inspecting old timing cover that was removed earlier this year. Everyone pretty much called it right by saying that it couldn't have been a bearing. Give yourself a big pat on the back...





Here's a shot of the new cover and a look at the clearance between the chain and protruding lip in the TC.


Last edited by YotaJunky; 12-10-2008 at 04:59 PM.
Old 12-11-2008, 04:09 PM
  #32  
Registered User
 
abecedarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Temecula Valley, CA
Posts: 12,723
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
that's why the guides and tensioner are so important and why you should change them periodically.
congrats on figuring it out and finding it wasn't as serious as it could've been.
Old 12-11-2008, 08:38 PM
  #33  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
YotaJunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by abecedarian
that's why the guides and tensioner are so important and why you should change them periodically.
congrats on figuring it out and finding it wasn't as serious as it could've been.
I couldn't agree with you more. Yes, I'm relieved that it didn't turn out to be a full rebuild.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
he's gone
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
7
12-03-2019 07:08 AM
calderp
Engine Swaps
2
08-16-2016 05:15 PM
norcal98
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
2
08-10-2015 06:20 AM
calderp
Pre 84 Trucks
8
07-27-2015 09:58 AM
Gamble_STi
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
2
07-07-2015 07:54 PM



Quick Reply: Can main bearings break and slip out?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:06 PM.