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Old 12-03-2006, 05:55 PM
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I was curious to any successes anybody has had with either gas or oil additives. I know some of the stuff out there is junk, but what about Slick 50 gas treatments--do they do what they say they do? Or Restore, the oil enhancer. Just see'n what everybody thinks!
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seafoam all the way. And dude do a search there is tons of info on here abotu this.
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The Techron fuel cleaner has worked well for me. SeaFoam is the only additive I know of with this large of a following. Search SeaFoam! You will be amazed.
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I did do a search on the topic and found tons of information on Seafoam. From what I understand, it acts as a very good detergent in the oil. I'm wondering more about the oil additives that supposedly help compression--like Restore and Valvoline MaxLife additive.
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personally i have used pro-long enigne treatment 16.99 for a 12 oz bottle every oil change 8000 miles 10w-30 mobile one engine oil not even close to black after 8k miles
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I had a friend recommend Lucas Fuel Injector additive. I use it from time to time and I do notice a bit of an improvement. I've also seen alot in this forum about Seafoam. I haven't tried the Lucas Oil yet.
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Riselone (sp?) seemed to fix a sticking valve that I had when I put a quart in my oil. The oil got black fast when it was in there so it must have been cleaning it up.
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A can of BG 44K is also good. Expensive, but much better than STP fuel treatment.
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I never used Sea Foam as of yet, but I can tell you that I did have very good results with Lucas Oil. I have also used the treatmemt that Lucas makes for the trans., and had very good results. I had a trans., that was slipping very bad, and I mean bad. I put this stuff in, and I was good to go for another 2 years. When I sold the rig, it was still going strong with no slipping.
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I put in motor silk since 1992, i now have 200k, yes its getting tired, i really dont know if motor silk helped, i add it every 50,000 miles also i keep very good maintenance on my pride and toy
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I have used lucas oil stabilzer for years in my cat motor and at 520,000 miles the main bearings were like new so i have made a hapit of useing in both my harleys and my 4 runner and can tell you that i have had very good luck with it in all my motors.This weekend (yesterday) i did the seafoam and i have to say what a differance it made in my 4 runner (201,059 miles) its like teaching and old dog a new trick i think my motor thinks its new again. Talk about instent results wow put abouit 1/2 can thru the brake booster line and the rest in oil with the lucas then today with a 1/4 tank of gas added 1 can to gas and filled up and its been running so much better now before at 65 mph my tach showed 3100 rpm now its showing 2850-2900 just adding that and it dropped the rpm 2000 im gonna start useing it every oil change from now on and i want to thank the people here for turning me on to it best $17.00 (3 cans ) and right now results i have ever seen.
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I use 2 oz of acetone per 10 gal of gas. Helps with gas milage and runs smoother and less labored. Also add lucas engine treatment with each oil change.
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FYI: acetone is leaning out your air to fuel ratio by tricking the 02 sensor..bad juju.

I have used lucas stuff, it works unlike other junk
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**YI: acetone is leaning out your air to fuel ratio by tricking the 02 sensor..bad juju.**

So how is that bad? Should I just get a new O2 sensor?
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Originally Posted by AUYota
**YI: acetone is leaning out your air to fuel ratio by tricking the 02 sensor..bad juju.**

So how is that bad? Should I just get a new O2 sensor?
No, but it certainly isnt helping your engine. It's basically tricking your ecu into not providing enough gas or engine and starving it-thats whay your getting better mpg-your using less gas and now have less power, it thinks your running to rich so of course it runs lean!

The exhaust temperature runs cooler, or the O2 sensor gets screwed up from the acetone. It tells the engine that its running rich. The engine leans it out to compensate for a rich condition that doesn't exist. This causes cylinder head temperatures to start climbing. Predetionation begins to happen. THe knock sensor goes reads knocking which retards the timing, which robs power. In the end, you're producing less power, with potentialy higher cylinder temperatures.

But your saving gas right? If it really worked, wouldnt everyone be doing and the auto makers saying to do it?

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Originally Posted by Nic
A can of BG 44K is also good. Expensive, but much better than STP fuel treatment.
That's the best stuff out there, hands down, no comparsion.






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Originally Posted by CJM
No, but it certainly isnt helping your engine. It's basically tricking your ecu into not providing enough gas or engine and starving it-thats whay your getting better mpg-your using less gas and now have less power, it thinks your running to rich so of course it runs lean!

The exhaust temperature runs cooler, or the O2 sensor gets screwed up from the acetone. It tells the engine that its running rich. The engine leans it out to compensate for a rich condition that doesn't exist. This causes cylinder head temperatures to start climbing. Predetionation begins to happen. THe knock sensor goes reads knocking which retards the timing, which robs power. In the end, you're producing less power, with potentialy higher cylinder temperatures.

But your saving gas right? If it really worked, wouldnt everyone be doing and the auto makers saying to do it?

Not at the 1 ~ 2 oz's / 10 gals of gasoline.




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Not at the 1 ~ 2 oz's / 10 gals of gasoline.




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Perhaps it doesnt lean it off that much, but 1-2oz in a 15+ gallon tank aitn gonna do much. I tried it in every car I ever drove and anyone who would let me do it to thier ride. First application they gained nothing, second with 4oz they got some, third nothing. So increased 2oz at a time till i got to 10 oz and nothing. It cleans the crap outt the injectors, fuelpump and lines at first..

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I put 3+ oz per tank... which follows the formula for 2 oz per 10 gallons... First off I have a bad KS which is throwing making me run more rich in the first place, so this leans it up some.
There are deminished returns over this amount I've read.
Also car makers do use it as a way to determine max fuel economy. And there are a lot of things in this world that are better and people don't do em! Lastly I don't think oil companies are going to do much to curb our demand for gasoline by adding acetone.
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ACETONE??? never heard of that before? if you add it late in the motor life, wont it start to clean all the crap in the gas tank and fuel lines--plugging the injectors?? i have a carb would it ruin the accelerator pump,


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