1st gen 4runner interior part interchangeability
09-05-2014, 03:17 PM
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1st gen 4runner interior part interchangeability
My 1988 4runner was recently stolen and recovered with the interior mostly stripped. I am currently looking for a parts truck to get many of these pieces and put my baby back on the road.
Obviously many parts interchange from 1985-1989 4runners and trucks, but not sure about the fine details and differences of the interior (door pads, dash, cargo area paneling, etc.).
Will any 4runner from 85-89 work or are some the differences in door pads and such that I should be looking for specific years?
Obviously many parts interchange from 1985-1989 4runners and trucks, but not sure about the fine details and differences of the interior (door pads, dash, cargo area paneling, etc.).
Will any 4runner from 85-89 work or are some the differences in door pads and such that I should be looking for specific years?
09-05-2014, 05:23 PM
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As far as I know, door panels are only really limited by electric windows VS crank windows, small wing windows VS full windows, and the late style molded door panel with an integrated armrest that is a part of the panel. Though you can convert door panels made for full windows to ones for vent windows by cutting weather stripping to fit. There's a thread around here about it.
There are some door panels that go up over the top of the door (curving) and touch the window, and there are door panels that stop about 2"-3" from the top of the door/lock area and are just exposed/painted metal on top. I believe those are on the cheaper models. Those don't have the curve on the top and appear to be flat boards as far as I can tell.
Pretty sure the rear plastic panels are all the same except for the cut out for the rear seat latch, which is scored on the back of the plastic panel, even on the trucks that don't have the rear seats. Acts as a guide in case you cut it out when a seat is added.
There are two dash types for the center vents and passenger vent. One with a long depression in the top (84-86 I believe) and one with a short depression in the top (87-89 I believe). The vents in each are slightly different, too. Early/long dashes have a passenger corner vent that wraps around the corner (much like the driver side one does). Late/short dashes have a passenger corner vent that is rectangular and doesn't wrap around the corner. Either dash type can be had with or without an inclinometer.
For the dashes, I think the center two vents might differ between the early/late types a tiny bit, but I haven't confirmed it yet. I think the face of the early type is a bit more slanted and the late type is a bit flatter of an angle.
There also seem so be early/late style gauge cluster bezels. The earlier ones are more square/rectangular across the top of the gauges. The later ones have more rounded edges across the top of the gauges (maybe more like a trapezoid) and have the fake stitching molded into the plastic. Both appear to have the same driver side vent that wraps around the corner. Pretty sure the driver side vent is the same for all years regardless of what dash or bezel you use.
Manual shifter console/boot trim also varies, from what I've seen. Looks like the G series transmission trucks (non-EFI) have a shifter console/boot trim with no cubby at the very front. The EFI trucks with the W series transmission have a shifter console/boot trim with a cubby at the front that you can put a small radio remote in or something. I haven't exactly nailed down those differences yet, but I believe them to be true. Worth double checking that one. Auto bezels are all the same I think.
Rear seat side panels vary between the models. Some have no cubby or cut out for a rear belt retractor. Some do. Even without the cubby and retractor hole, I think the rear seat side panels have the bolt hole for a seat belt if need be, but no where for the retractor to go. Unless you convert to a shoulder belt and have the retractor on the roll bar, or you just use loose lap belts.
What color was your interior?
There are some door panels that go up over the top of the door (curving) and touch the window, and there are door panels that stop about 2"-3" from the top of the door/lock area and are just exposed/painted metal on top. I believe those are on the cheaper models. Those don't have the curve on the top and appear to be flat boards as far as I can tell.
Pretty sure the rear plastic panels are all the same except for the cut out for the rear seat latch, which is scored on the back of the plastic panel, even on the trucks that don't have the rear seats. Acts as a guide in case you cut it out when a seat is added.
There are two dash types for the center vents and passenger vent. One with a long depression in the top (84-86 I believe) and one with a short depression in the top (87-89 I believe). The vents in each are slightly different, too. Early/long dashes have a passenger corner vent that wraps around the corner (much like the driver side one does). Late/short dashes have a passenger corner vent that is rectangular and doesn't wrap around the corner. Either dash type can be had with or without an inclinometer.
For the dashes, I think the center two vents might differ between the early/late types a tiny bit, but I haven't confirmed it yet. I think the face of the early type is a bit more slanted and the late type is a bit flatter of an angle.
There also seem so be early/late style gauge cluster bezels. The earlier ones are more square/rectangular across the top of the gauges. The later ones have more rounded edges across the top of the gauges (maybe more like a trapezoid) and have the fake stitching molded into the plastic. Both appear to have the same driver side vent that wraps around the corner. Pretty sure the driver side vent is the same for all years regardless of what dash or bezel you use.
Manual shifter console/boot trim also varies, from what I've seen. Looks like the G series transmission trucks (non-EFI) have a shifter console/boot trim with no cubby at the very front. The EFI trucks with the W series transmission have a shifter console/boot trim with a cubby at the front that you can put a small radio remote in or something. I haven't exactly nailed down those differences yet, but I believe them to be true. Worth double checking that one. Auto bezels are all the same I think.
Rear seat side panels vary between the models. Some have no cubby or cut out for a rear belt retractor. Some do. Even without the cubby and retractor hole, I think the rear seat side panels have the bolt hole for a seat belt if need be, but no where for the retractor to go. Unless you convert to a shoulder belt and have the retractor on the roll bar, or you just use loose lap belts.
What color was your interior?
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09-05-2014, 06:55 PM
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Wow! Thank you for the very informative post!!!
My interior and exterior color is brown, so I am pretty stuck looking for a brown int unless I repaint the ext.
My door panels go from top to bottom and incorporate the weatherstripping for the window..
I have vents on both the center of the dash and one by the pass and driver.
Good to know I don't have a ton to worry about.
Any other pitfalls to avoid when I start mixing and matching to get my int back together?
Thanks!
My interior and exterior color is brown, so I am pretty stuck looking for a brown int unless I repaint the ext.
My door panels go from top to bottom and incorporate the weatherstripping for the window..
I have vents on both the center of the dash and one by the pass and driver.
Good to know I don't have a ton to worry about.
Any other pitfalls to avoid when I start mixing and matching to get my int back together?
Thanks!
As far as I know, door panels are only really limited by electric windows VS crank windows, small wing windows VS full windows, and the late style molded door panel with an integrated armrest that is a part of the panel. Though you can convert door panels made for full windows to ones for vent windows by cutting weather stripping to fit. There's a thread around here about it.
There are some door panels that go up over the top of the door (curving) and touch the window, and there are door panels that stop about 2"-3" from the top of the door/lock area and are just exposed/painted metal on top. I believe those are on the cheaper models. Those don't have the curve on the top and appear to be flat boards as far as I can tell.
Pretty sure the rear plastic panels are all the same except for the cut out for the rear seat latch, which is scored on the back of the plastic panel, even on the trucks that don't have the rear seats. Acts as a guide in case you cut it out when a seat is added.
There are two dash types for the center vents and passenger vent. One with a long depression in the top (84-86 I believe) and one with a short depression in the top (87-89 I believe). The vents in each are slightly different, too. Early/long dashes have a passenger corner vent that wraps around the corner (much like the driver side one does). Late/short dashes have a passenger corner vent that is rectangular and doesn't wrap around the corner. Either dash type can be had with or without an inclinometer.
For the dashes, I think the center two vents might differ between the early/late types a tiny bit, but I haven't confirmed it yet. I think the face of the early type is a bit more slanted and the late type is a bit flatter of an angle.
There also seem so be early/late style gauge cluster bezels. The earlier ones are more square/rectangular across the top of the gauges. The later ones have more rounded edges across the top of the gauges (maybe more like a trapezoid) and have the fake stitching molded into the plastic. Both appear to have the same driver side vent that wraps around the corner. Pretty sure the driver side vent is the same for all years regardless of what dash or bezel you use.
Manual shifter console/boot trim also varies, from what I've seen. Looks like the G series transmission trucks (non-EFI) have a shifter console/boot trim with no cubby at the very front. The EFI trucks with the W series transmission have a shifter console/boot trim with a cubby at the front that you can put a small radio remote in or something. I haven't exactly nailed down those differences yet, but I believe them to be true. Worth double checking that one. Auto bezels are all the same I think.
Rear seat side panels vary between the models. Some have no cubby or cut out for a rear belt retractor. Some do. Even without the cubby and retractor hole, I think the rear seat side panels have the bolt hole for a seat belt if need be, but no where for the retractor to go. Unless you convert to a shoulder belt and have the retractor on the roll bar, or you just use loose lap belts.
What color was your interior?
There are some door panels that go up over the top of the door (curving) and touch the window, and there are door panels that stop about 2"-3" from the top of the door/lock area and are just exposed/painted metal on top. I believe those are on the cheaper models. Those don't have the curve on the top and appear to be flat boards as far as I can tell.
Pretty sure the rear plastic panels are all the same except for the cut out for the rear seat latch, which is scored on the back of the plastic panel, even on the trucks that don't have the rear seats. Acts as a guide in case you cut it out when a seat is added.
There are two dash types for the center vents and passenger vent. One with a long depression in the top (84-86 I believe) and one with a short depression in the top (87-89 I believe). The vents in each are slightly different, too. Early/long dashes have a passenger corner vent that wraps around the corner (much like the driver side one does). Late/short dashes have a passenger corner vent that is rectangular and doesn't wrap around the corner. Either dash type can be had with or without an inclinometer.
For the dashes, I think the center two vents might differ between the early/late types a tiny bit, but I haven't confirmed it yet. I think the face of the early type is a bit more slanted and the late type is a bit flatter of an angle.
There also seem so be early/late style gauge cluster bezels. The earlier ones are more square/rectangular across the top of the gauges. The later ones have more rounded edges across the top of the gauges (maybe more like a trapezoid) and have the fake stitching molded into the plastic. Both appear to have the same driver side vent that wraps around the corner. Pretty sure the driver side vent is the same for all years regardless of what dash or bezel you use.
Manual shifter console/boot trim also varies, from what I've seen. Looks like the G series transmission trucks (non-EFI) have a shifter console/boot trim with no cubby at the very front. The EFI trucks with the W series transmission have a shifter console/boot trim with a cubby at the front that you can put a small radio remote in or something. I haven't exactly nailed down those differences yet, but I believe them to be true. Worth double checking that one. Auto bezels are all the same I think.
Rear seat side panels vary between the models. Some have no cubby or cut out for a rear belt retractor. Some do. Even without the cubby and retractor hole, I think the rear seat side panels have the bolt hole for a seat belt if need be, but no where for the retractor to go. Unless you convert to a shoulder belt and have the retractor on the roll bar, or you just use loose lap belts.
What color was your interior?
09-06-2014, 09:41 AM
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Wow! Thank you for the very informative post!!!
My interior and exterior color is brown, so I am pretty stuck looking for a brown int unless I repaint the ext.
My door panels go from top to bottom and incorporate the weatherstripping for the window..
I have vents on both the center of the dash and one by the pass and driver.
Good to know I don't have a ton to worry about.
Any other pitfalls to avoid when I start mixing and matching to get my int back together?
Thanks!
My interior and exterior color is brown, so I am pretty stuck looking for a brown int unless I repaint the ext.
My door panels go from top to bottom and incorporate the weatherstripping for the window..
I have vents on both the center of the dash and one by the pass and driver.
Good to know I don't have a ton to worry about.
Any other pitfalls to avoid when I start mixing and matching to get my int back together?
Thanks!
84 interior. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. Being an 84, there were no EFI trucks, so the shift/boot console plate is for the G series and does NOT have a cubby.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...TtraY/$_57.JPG
85 interior. Notice how the depression on the top of the dash goes all the way across. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. This truck has EFI, so the shift/boot console plate is for a W series and DOES HAVE a cubby with a yellow flashlight in it.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
89 V6. Notice the depression on the top of the dash goes half way. Notice how the passenger vent does NOT wrap around the corner. Notice the trapezoid instrument bezel with fake stitching. I guess the shift boots on the V6 do NOT have a cubby, and that only the 22RE does. Makes me wonder if the 22R and V6 manual shift boot console plates are the same or not.
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7bdd719a.jpg
My last suspicion is that the center vents are also different.
85. Notice how the bottoms of the center vents poke out more. They look more like this "/". The top edge of the dash also has a sharp crease.
https://i.imgur.com/lT2K79H.jpg
89. Notice how the vents are just curved. They look more like this "(". The top edge of the dash has a smoother bend than the 85.
https://i.imgur.com/zSx0bid.jpg
As far as I know, there's nothing keeping you from using whatever bezel or dash you want, but you just need the correct 3 dash vents to match up with the dash you choose. I think you can also mix and match early/square instrument bezels with later dashes just fine.
Hope this clarifies some.
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09-06-2014, 10:45 AM
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Outstanding, I think that does clarify a lot.
One other difference I have seen is not all door panels go down to the bottom all the way.
like this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
vs
this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/AmUAAOSwEK9TtraY/$_57.JPG
Thank you very much!
One other difference I have seen is not all door panels go down to the bottom all the way.
like this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
vs
this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/AmUAAOSwEK9TtraY/$_57.JPG
Thank you very much!
All of the 4Runners I've seen have 4 vents. It's the dash shape that dictates which vents you need to match it.
84 interior. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. Being an 84, there were no EFI trucks, so the shift/boot console plate is for the G series and does NOT have a cubby.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...TtraY/$_57.JPG
85 interior. Notice how the depression on the top of the dash goes all the way across. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. This truck has EFI, so the shift/boot console plate is for a W series and DOES HAVE a cubby with a yellow flashlight in it.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
89 V6. Notice the depression on the top of the dash goes half way. Notice how the passenger vent does NOT wrap around the corner. Notice the trapezoid instrument bezel with fake stitching. I guess the shift boots on the V6 do NOT have a cubby, and that only the 22RE does. Makes me wonder if the 22R and V6 manual shift boot console plates are the same or not.
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7bdd719a.jpg
My last suspicion is that the center vents are also different.
85. Notice how the bottoms of the center vents poke out more. They look more like this "/". The top edge of the dash also has a sharp crease.
https://i.imgur.com/lT2K79H.jpg
89. Notice how the vents are just curved. They look more like this "(". The top edge of the dash has a smoother bend than the 85.
https://i.imgur.com/zSx0bid.jpg
As far as I know, there's nothing keeping you from using whatever bezel or dash you want, but you just need the correct 3 dash vents to match up with the dash you choose. I think you can also mix and match early/square instrument bezels with later dashes just fine.
Hope this clarifies some.
84 interior. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. Being an 84, there were no EFI trucks, so the shift/boot console plate is for the G series and does NOT have a cubby.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...TtraY/$_57.JPG
85 interior. Notice how the depression on the top of the dash goes all the way across. Notice how the passenger vent wraps around the corner. Notice the squared instrument bezel. This truck has EFI, so the shift/boot console plate is for a W series and DOES HAVE a cubby with a yellow flashlight in it.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
89 V6. Notice the depression on the top of the dash goes half way. Notice how the passenger vent does NOT wrap around the corner. Notice the trapezoid instrument bezel with fake stitching. I guess the shift boots on the V6 do NOT have a cubby, and that only the 22RE does. Makes me wonder if the 22R and V6 manual shift boot console plates are the same or not.
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7bdd719a.jpg
My last suspicion is that the center vents are also different.
85. Notice how the bottoms of the center vents poke out more. They look more like this "/". The top edge of the dash also has a sharp crease.
https://i.imgur.com/lT2K79H.jpg
89. Notice how the vents are just curved. They look more like this "(". The top edge of the dash has a smoother bend than the 85.
https://i.imgur.com/zSx0bid.jpg
As far as I know, there's nothing keeping you from using whatever bezel or dash you want, but you just need the correct 3 dash vents to match up with the dash you choose. I think you can also mix and match early/square instrument bezels with later dashes just fine.
Hope this clarifies some.
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Outstanding, I think that does clarify a lot.
One other difference I have seen is not all door panels go down to the bottom all the way.
like this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
vs
this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/AmUAAOSwEK9TtraY/$_57.JPG
Thank you very much!
One other difference I have seen is not all door panels go down to the bottom all the way.
like this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyOD...TrXCD/$_57.JPG
vs
this:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/AmUAAOSwEK9TtraY/$_57.JPG
Thank you very much!
Those panels look identical aside from the carpet on the bottom. On eBay, the one with the carpet on the bottom also has carpet in the truck. The one without carpet on the bottom has rubber mats in the truck instead of carpet.
Another pic of the carpeted panel. You can see screws holding the bottom panel on. So I assume it's just an additional piece that was attached for the higher end model truck.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...TtrZ-/$_57.JPG
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