LSUfan71

I was on the way home after fillin' my gut at Momma's, Happy Thanksgiving everyone BTW, and I was on the road for about 10 minutes when my engine stopped running. Lights stayed on, battery seems fine. It happened very suddenly. I coasted to a stop and was able to get it safely off the road.

After it stopped I tried to restart, the engine will turn over but there's no firing at all. I don't think it's a gas line problem or fuel pump issue because it seems like I can hear that there's no activity with the plugs.

I didn't have a flashlight or any tools so it's on side of the road about 10 miles from the house, luckily the wife was a short distance ahead of me and she turned around to get me. I'll have it towed in the morning.

So where do I start? I used light from my iPhone screen to see that all the spark plug wires/dist cap were secure, that's all I could do at the time (had no flashlight or tools). I'm really a novice so any advice will help.

I gotta do a 12 hr day shift tomorrow so I'll get to it tomorrow night and Sat morning.

I saw a thread about electrical connections coming loose. Ideas about where to start looking?

Staceman1

Pull dist cap off, see if rotor turns while cranking.

mightymouse

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22r or re?

LSUfan71

Ok, I'll start there.


22R

mightymouse

iTrader: (6)

check your fuel pump and make sure youre getting fuel. If that checks out look and make sure you're getting spark.

mightymouse

iTrader: (6)

start reading this. http://www.bluebassdesign.com/boonin/carb_faq/

LSUfan71

Not turning! Something broken?

LSUfan71

Could the gear on the end of the shaft break? What could cause this? I've got my manual with what looks like decent instructions on how to replace it. Both vacuum lines look good, everything under the dist cap looks like new. I installed a new dist cap and rotor last month, been running good since then, till Thur night.

c0ugar69

I would think a broken timing chain would cause the cam not to turn and then the dist. would also not turn. take the valve cover off and see whats going on, see if the chain is damaged and if the cam is turning. also with the cover off you can see the dist. gear.

LSUfan71

Wouldn't the rotor turn freely then? Right now it's solid, won't turn by hand at all.

Removing valve cover...

LSUfan71

Yep, broken timing chain:

(I propped it up there for a nice pic)

LSUfan71

But more disturbing is what else I see, broken bearing cap :

LSUfan71

I suppose this indicates probable damage to some valves? recommendations?

I guess I'll look at a rebuild, it was burning oil (white smoke), might as well get r done.

c0ugar69

that sucks, what bearing is that?? mine had a damaged center bearing but i fixed it, you may have gotten luckey and not bent valves, the broken cap may have lodged in the chain and broke it. I am not sure how to tell if they are bent or not, someone else may know.

LSUfan71

yea, sucks bad. It's the middle bearing, almost didn't notice it. Just happened to look around after checking out the broken timing change. How would that happen?

I'm not sure how to tell about bent valves. I'm thinking about a rebuild, need more advice..

LSUfan71

Some guys at work say I'm overreacting. They say to lift the head and check the cylinders, if the the pistons/cylinder walls look OK then I should just drop in a reman head. Sounds good (and cheap) to me, what do you guys think?

takeitoutgetitdirty

Yeah you could probably get away with it but depending on how many miles, you may want to pull the motor and check the bottom end (bearings etc...) as well. Make sure there is nothing in the oil pan. My opinion I wouldn't go with a remaned head give Ted a call @ Engine builders and get a new casting. (thats just me) When it comes to stuff like that I just don't trust remaned stuff. If I remember correctly its not that much of a price difference.

LSUfan71

I've look at Ted's site and a few others. A new head with all the goodies will be in the $450 range, looks like the reman stuff is in the $350-$400 range. I need to check local too though. The truck/engine has 126,*** miles on it.

LSUfan71

Ok, everyone says I need a new head instead of a reman. so I guess I'll try to find the best deal tomorrow. I'll try to lift the old one tonight and check the pistons. I wonder what caused it.

c0ugar69

thats the same journal that was damaged on mine. I heard it may be from the head being warped but I never did figure it out because my head wasnt warped so i dont really know.