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Old 07-16-2011, 07:49 PM
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Spring heights please help

Im finally looking to do some real suspension on my truck looking into ether allpro or trail gear rear springs and then rears up front till I can get front spring.
I still want to keep it low since I only want to run 33s/35s im looking into ether 3-4" rears then build my ruf to match...
Anybody got pics of there 1st gen on simular set up I know OCDropzone is running 4" front 5" rear and it looks good but a lil tall for my taste... I have also heard that 3" TG springs sit almost as tall as there 5" springs (is this true?) I carry almost 200lbs of gear in me bed everyday plus my topper my stock rear sags about 2" lower than empty so im hoping that it will help settle and lower the springs... Also are allpro spring worth the extra $ or are TG spring just as good of quallity?

Any pics or advice of personal experience would be appreciated!

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TG 3's are about what a normal 4-5" spring would be, their 5's are for monster trucks. I'd just run some trail-gears if you want to buy new stuff, F150 or Chev 63's if you wanna save some cash.
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the thing about the T-G springs(longer than stock) is that it requires their (or make one) new front spring hanger which adds about 1.5" to the lift. If you french the front spring hanger that would drop it down to stock height but need some bracing.

My springs seem to be ok, they did settle a little bit.I only went the 5" springs in the rear because of the back seat. Their springs bushings suck though. I will be replacing mine this fall...

have you considers rears up front?
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Originally Posted by TrikeKid
TG 3's are about what a normal 4-5" spring would be, their 5's are for monster trucks. I'd just run some trail-gears if you want to buy new stuff, F150 or Chev 63's if you wanna save some cash.
63" chevies are way to long and dont like the idea of F150s

Id rather have new and not someone elses worn used springs that I have to guess on on to make them work and get the height I want...TG/allpro atleast give me and idea on what to expect and still use yota hardware
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Originally Posted by ocdropzone
the thing about the T-G springs(longer than stock) is that it requires their (or make one) new front spring hanger which adds about 1.5" to the lift. If you french the front spring hanger that would drop it down to stock height but need some bracing.

My springs seem to be ok, they did settle a little bit.I only went the 5" springs in the rear because of the back seat. Their springs bushings suck though. I will be replacing mine this fall...

have you considers rears up front?
Im already planning on RUFs no matter how the rear turns out!

I callled and talk to TG today and he confirmed that the 3" rears I want will total about 4" (w/their hangers) after they settle in and might settle to about 3.5" since I carry added weight.

so I think my plan is to run TG 3" rear springs and 4-6 leaf RUFs

ocdropzone can you get some measurements for me?
actual spring length? (TG math doesnt add up)
how far you moved your rear spring hangers?
frame to ground measurement?

I would really appreciate it!

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center eye to eye, springs are 55 5/8's
front spring mount:

new mount edge is about 2 1/8" forward of the edge of the old mount. center of spring eye in new mount to old mount is right at 6". the eye to eye would be the same using the mount that comes with the T-G, I used their alternate front mount because I thought I was gonna do 63" at one point
rear mount is 3" center to center of where the old mount was, it is back 1" further than what is recommended (2") on a normal truck
just have a pic of the rear shackle angle:


frame heighth is higher than I would like: 26" to the frame measured at the middle of the door. this is on Toyo Open Country MT's 35x13.5x15 on 8" rims seems like I was a little lower with the 10" wide rims

hope this helps
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Thanks really appreciate it...
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