Convert FED/CANADA emissions and Vac. Lines to CALI. Config?

c.updegrave · 11-05-2009, 07:41 PM

Can I convert my 82' FED/CANADA to a CALI emissions and vacuum hose configuration? It's a total nightmare and I'd have to believe I need about 1/2 of that tangle under my hood... Can I just follow the 3D vacuum line diagrams and pull & plug lines then chuck things that serve no purpose in a California configuration?

Rebuilt/Rebushed Factory National Carb
new plugs
new plug wires
new rotor
new distrib cap
replaced most vac. lines with new ones

Truck still fast idles like crap and surges

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rowdy235 · 11-05-2009, 08:31 PM

Don't know why you'd switch TO a cali configuration if you're not in california. Cali config is much more complex and prone to problems. Your best bet to reduce lines is to do a weber carb and an EGR delete. Should clear up most (if not all) unnecessary vac lines.

PS, your 82 looks so much like mine its almost ridiculous

c.updegrave · 11-06-2009, 06:58 AM

I thought the CAL was less complicated. Take a look at both the 82' & 87' under-the-hood labels (82' is the wrinkeled one). Am I a bonehead and the CAL doesn't stand for California but something else?

I get you on the Weber, Just couldn't afford it. The rebuilt/rebushed was only $150.00...

refried · 11-06-2009, 08:54 AM

two totally different engines, one is fuel injected the other has a carb (the block is the same but intake is different).
if you take the '87 engine and put it in the '82 truck you can use the '87 emissions. to be legal in a smog tested truck the engine in the truck must be the same or newer than the body of the truck and the emissions from the newer engine used.

83 · 11-06-2009, 09:22 AM

Yes Cali model is MUCH more complex.

c.updegrave · 11-06-2009, 09:23 AM

My 82' & 87' both have carburetors. The photo of the two under-the-hood labels are from both my vehicles (wrinked one is the 82'). What makes the 87' so simple?

Jeff D · 11-09-2009, 01:35 PM

I believe Toyota made carbureted 22R engines until 1995 or so, with the fuel injection option (22R-E) starting around 1985.

Maybe the California diagram is showing additional components, on top of what already exists for Federal/Canada? I didn't try to compare the two drawings side by side...

c.updegrave · 11-09-2009, 02:08 PM

I think that CAL doesn't stand for California on the 87' hood label. The carb'd 87' I have is so much simpler than my carbed 82'. Wish there was a simple way to convert the 82' into something that makes sense.

the_supernerd · 11-18-2009, 10:57 PM

CAL stands for California on the '87. I have both '87 and '88 carbureted California smog trucks and an '82 that is also California smog. The '82 has way more vacuum lines than my other trucks. It appears to be a lot more complicated than the diagram of your Federal smog '82. To simplify your '82, the conversion would have to be from '82 Federal smog to '87 California smog.

From what I can tell, California smog is more computer controlled, which might make for a few less vacuum lines depending on year. You cannot just take off parts to convert to California smog. You would have to change the wiring harness, ECU, distributor (or possibly just vacuum advance), add an O2 sensor plus the other electronic contols, and I believe the carburetors are different between Federal and California. It is doable, but probably not worth the effort. If you still want to convert it, I have a computer and wiring harness from an '86 that I will sell you.

11-05-2009, 08:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
rowdy235 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sweet Home, OR Posts: 1,561	Don't know why you'd switch TO a cali configuration if you're not in california. Cali config is much more complex and prone to problems. Your best bet to reduce lines is to do a weber carb and an EGR delete. Should clear up most (if not all) unnecessary vac lines. PS, your 82 looks so much like mine its almost ridiculous __________________ The Daily Driver: 1998 Tacoma \| Regular Cab \| 4WD \| 2.7L \| 5-Speed Stick \| Mostly Stock The People-Hauler 1988 Grand Wagoneer \| SUV \| 4WD \| AMC 360 \| 3-Speed Auto \| All Stock The Dump Runner 1982 Pickup \| Regular Cab \| 2WD \| 22R \| 5-Speed Stick \| Custom Exhaust FER SALE! http://www.yotatech.com/f108/1982-sh.../#post51229916 Last edited by rowdy235; 11-05-2009 at 08:33 PM.

11-06-2009, 06:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
c.updegrave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vernonia, Oregon Posts: 13	I thought the CAL was less complicated. Take a look at both the 82' & 87' under-the-hood labels (82' is the wrinkeled one). Am I a bonehead and the CAL doesn't stand for California but something else? I get you on the Weber, Just couldn't afford it. The rebuilt/rebushed was only $150.00... Attached Thumbnails __________________ 1987 Toyota 2WD 5-Speed, 22R 1982 Toyota 2WD 4-Speed, 22R

11-06-2009, 08:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
refried Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Republic of Cascadia Posts: 170	two totally different engines, one is fuel injected the other has a carb (the block is the same but intake is different). if you take the '87 engine and put it in the '82 truck you can use the '87 emissions. to be legal in a smog tested truck the engine in the truck must be the same or newer than the body of the truck and the emissions from the newer engine used. __________________ 1981 Shortbed 4x4 Buick 231 V6, Turbo 350 4" springs 35x12.50 15 Bfg MT 300,000+ miles

11-06-2009, 09:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Yes Cali model is MUCH more complex. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

11-06-2009, 09:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
c.updegrave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vernonia, Oregon Posts: 13	My 82' & 87' both have carburetors. The photo of the two under-the-hood labels are from both my vehicles (wrinked one is the 82'). What makes the 87' so simple? __________________ 1987 Toyota 2WD 5-Speed, 22R 1982 Toyota 2WD 4-Speed, 22R

11-09-2009, 01:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jeff D Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Claremont, CA Posts: 31	I believe Toyota made carbureted 22R engines until 1995 or so, with the fuel injection option (22R-E) starting around 1985. Maybe the California diagram is showing additional components, on top of what already exists for Federal/Canada? I didn't try to compare the two drawings side by side... __________________ 1983 2WD Longbed Pickup Last edited by Jeff D; 11-09-2009 at 01:36 PM.

11-09-2009, 02:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
c.updegrave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vernonia, Oregon Posts: 13	I think that CAL doesn't stand for California on the 87' hood label. The carb'd 87' I have is so much simpler than my carbed 82'. Wish there was a simple way to convert the 82' into something that makes sense. __________________ 1987 Toyota 2WD 5-Speed, 22R 1982 Toyota 2WD 4-Speed, 22R

11-18-2009, 10:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
the_supernerd Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sonora, CA Posts: 1,138	CAL stands for California on the '87. I have both '87 and '88 carbureted California smog trucks and an '82 that is also California smog. The '82 has way more vacuum lines than my other trucks. It appears to be a lot more complicated than the diagram of your Federal smog '82. To simplify your '82, the conversion would have to be from '82 Federal smog to '87 California smog. From what I can tell, California smog is more computer controlled, which might make for a few less vacuum lines depending on year. You cannot just take off parts to convert to California smog. You would have to change the wiring harness, ECU, distributor (or possibly just vacuum advance), add an O2 sensor plus the other electronic contols, and I believe the carburetors are different between Federal and California. It is doable, but probably not worth the effort. If you still want to convert it, I have a computer and wiring harness from an '86 that I will sell you. __________________ -Anthony 1987 4x4 Carbureted 22R truck Grill & brush guard \| Roll bars \| Bed liner \| Tubular rear bumper \| JVC CD-player \| Custom 6.5" rear speaker boxes with 6.5" Sony X-Plods \| Polk 3.5" speakers in dash \| Fog & driving lights Future mods: Dynomax muffler \| Spray on bed liner \| Custom switch for fog & driving lights

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