81 Pickup power steering

beswa · 10-26-2009, 10:06 PM

Hi New to the hole world of Toyota 4x4s. i just picked up an 81 pickup and it dose not have power steering. the question is was power steering offered in 81 and or can i use my factory steering box and just get a pump and some hydraulic lines?
thanks Dave

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83 · 10-27-2009, 06:24 AM

Can't remember if it was available in 81 but it was definitely available in 83, and everything should be the same between the two, so you could find a power steering gear box, pump + pullys and swap yours out. Or yes, you can drill your gearbox and get hydro assist. There are threads on it on the Marlin Crawler forum and probably Pirate4x4. I've had the whole power steering set up laying in my garage since March...just haven't got around to installing it..

83 · 10-27-2009, 12:03 PM

Looks like it's actually for an IFS box...not sure how easily that translates to a SFA box, but it might give you an idea of the job.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=10579.0

russtri · 10-27-2009, 03:04 PM

My 81 has power steering. So yes, it does come with power steering.

83 · 10-27-2009, 03:08 PM

Unless someone added it! But yeah, I think maybe by the time the first 4x4 pickups came out it was already an option, maybe just not a common one, so it would make sense that any 79-83 pickup could have come with power steering.

slacker · 10-27-2009, 06:21 PM

Yes ... Power steering was first introduced in the /81 SR5 . and very directly interchangable with components to /85 >>>> /86 + IFS box requires modifications .

components needed are :

P/steering box
P/steering pump + brackets
Pressure hose
return hose
cooler (in front of the rad support)
resivior
crank belt pulley (and the 4 bolts to attach it)
tensioner pulley
belt

very easy "option" to install

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82blueyota · 10-27-2009, 06:36 PM

i just did it.it was realy easy found a rig with all the components all of it bolted right on.here are some pics of the parts you will need
pump and gear box
mounting brackets
steering shaft
pully that goes on the crank
resivor and cooler
my manual gear box was shorter than the power one
needed the steering shaft to go with it
my manual gear box was not threaded for the lines either no provisions for it

cree · 10-27-2009, 07:03 PM

My 81 SR5 does indeed have power steering.

beswa · 10-27-2009, 07:34 PM

Now dose anyone have the parts to sell i am having trouble finding them.
Thanks for the help dave

cree · 10-27-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beswa

Now dose anyone have the parts to sell i am having trouble finding them.
Thanks for the help dave

I see the parts ALL the time on Craigslist. Not sure how popular Craigslist is where you live though.

beswa · 10-27-2009, 07:44 PM

Kijijii is more popular no luck though

83 · 10-28-2009, 06:42 AM

You won't find it right away unless you're lucky. I looked for it along with a bunch of other parts from over 6 months before it popped up. Just keep looking.

Steering shaft, eh? Crap. I didn't get the steering shaft...didn't get the pulley that goes on the crank, either, but I've heard of people getting away with putting the belt on at an angle, on the pulley that must be meant for AC? Not ideal...but it would work until I found that extra pulley. I wonder if I'll definitely need the steering shaft...looks like I should do some measuring.

Check the internet, check your local junkyards. Eventually something will come up.

slacker · 10-28-2009, 07:53 AM

depends on the year of P/S you get , as to wether you need the shaft .. 81-83 p/s box has a large spline u-joint 84-85 have a rag joint .. Installing a /early style to early style , I have never changed the shaft .. but on my Trekker build , I used a 84-85 shaft to get around a large /99 DD brake booster , so I needed the rag joint style .

other installes I have done , I have never had to swap the shaft .

as for the pulley .. you will need it .. if you install the bet at an angle , it WILL slip off .. I would hate for that to be on the hi way or something when you not expecting it . find the pulley !

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INFINITY · 10-28-2009, 08:20 AM

my 80 has it stock. autozone even has it on their computer as an option.

83 · 10-28-2009, 08:45 AM

Cool, thanks slacker. I have an 83, and I found an 83 power steering set up, so I should be good (once I find a pulley).

slacker · 10-28-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INFINITY

my 80 has it stock. autozone even has it on their computer as an option.

Checking the parts listings for the P/S --- seems it was avaliable in the US since 7901 very first production it is listed .. I stand corrected !

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82blueyota · 10-28-2009, 09:30 PM

well just be aware of the length of your gear box there are some slight variations on box lenght i have read on another tread on here that there is a difference in box lenght.some just dont have th provisoins for the fluid ports. i just put power steering on mine like 3 weeks ago and my power box was shorter and my shaft would not fit(some kind of girth problem) He He. luckily i took the shaft off the truck i robbed it from.

83 · 10-29-2009, 06:32 AM

Was it the same year truck as yours?

82blueyota · 10-29-2009, 07:01 PM

i have a 82 and the truck i robbed was an 83

slacker · 10-29-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82blueyota

i have a 82 and the truck i robbed was an 83

are you sure it wasnt maybe a production(8308 +) or newer unit ?

Part # 45220-35062 lower steering shaft .. is the same between 79-83

P/steering box # 44110-35031 is the same 7901-8308

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82blueyota · 10-29-2009, 07:44 PM

the door tag said 4/83. me and my buddy puled a 7/83 out of the same spot on his dads property and they bolth have the short shaft.my old box does not have the provisoins or any area where they could be taped im not saying there not out there.

83YotaNator · 11-01-2009, 04:44 PM

Just did this yesterday to my buddies 81 truck. Got the pump and all the brackets from an 89 ifs 22re truck and swapped it over the high pressure line off the pre 85 is the only thing you need i believe and an 83 steering box or tap yours.

81yotalove · 11-01-2009, 05:48 PM

My 81 has power steering and power brakes, so maybe its an SR5 how would I know? Is there a certain character on the vin I could look for?

slacker · 11-01-2009, 05:58 PM

yep ... serial # JT4RN__S ... is an SR5 (this is by memory)

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81yotalove · 11-01-2009, 06:13 PM

Thanks for the info, so I just checked and mine is a D, what does that stand for?

10-27-2009, 06:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Can't remember if it was available in 81 but it was definitely available in 83, and everything should be the same between the two, so you could find a power steering gear box, pump + pullys and swap yours out. Or yes, you can drill your gearbox and get hydro assist. There are threads on it on the Marlin Crawler forum and probably Pirate4x4. I've had the whole power steering set up laying in my garage since March...just haven't got around to installing it.. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-27-2009, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Looks like it's actually for an IFS box...not sure how easily that translates to a SFA box, but it might give you an idea of the job. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=10579.0 __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-27-2009, 03:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
russtri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 11	81 Power steering My 81 has power steering. So yes, it does come with power steering.

10-27-2009, 03:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Unless someone added it! But yeah, I think maybe by the time the first 4x4 pickups came out it was already an option, maybe just not a common one, so it would make sense that any 79-83 pickup could have come with power steering. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-27-2009, 06:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	Yes ... Power steering was first introduced in the /81 SR5 . and very directly interchangable with components to /85 >>>> /86 + IFS box requires modifications . components needed are : P/steering box P/steering pump + brackets Pressure hose return hose cooler (in front of the rad support) resivior crank belt pulley (and the 4 bolts to attach it) tensioner pulley belt very easy "option" to install . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum Last edited by slacker; 10-27-2009 at 06:42 PM.

10-27-2009, 06:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
82blueyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: spokane wa Posts: 32	i just did it.it was realy easy found a rig with all the components all of it bolted right on.here are some pics of the parts you will need pump and gear box mounting brackets steering shaft pully that goes on the crank resivor and cooler my manual gear box was shorter than the power one needed the steering shaft to go with it my manual gear box was not threaded for the lines either no provisions for it Attached Thumbnails

10-27-2009, 07:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
cree Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 7	My 81 SR5 does indeed have power steering.

10-27-2009, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
beswa Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 7	Now dose anyone have the parts to sell i am having trouble finding them. Thanks for the help dave

10-27-2009, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
beswa Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 7	Kijijii is more popular no luck though

10-28-2009, 06:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	You won't find it right away unless you're lucky. I looked for it along with a bunch of other parts from over 6 months before it popped up. Just keep looking. Steering shaft, eh? Crap. I didn't get the steering shaft...didn't get the pulley that goes on the crank, either, but I've heard of people getting away with putting the belt on at an angle, on the pulley that must be meant for AC? Not ideal...but it would work until I found that extra pulley. I wonder if I'll definitely need the steering shaft...looks like I should do some measuring. Check the internet, check your local junkyards. Eventually something will come up. __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-28-2009, 07:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	depends on the year of P/S you get , as to wether you need the shaft .. 81-83 p/s box has a large spline u-joint 84-85 have a rag joint .. Installing a /early style to early style , I have never changed the shaft .. but on my Trekker build , I used a 84-85 shaft to get around a large /99 DD brake booster , so I needed the rag joint style . other installes I have done , I have never had to swap the shaft . as for the pulley .. you will need it .. if you install the bet at an angle , it WILL slip off .. I would hate for that to be on the hi way or something when you not expecting it . find the pulley ! . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

10-28-2009, 08:20 AM	#14 (permalink)
INFINITY Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canyon Creek, AZ Posts: 643	my 80 has it stock. autozone even has it on their computer as an option. __________________ TRAIL GEAR's CUSTOMER SERVICE IS TERRIBLE MORE LIKE A HEADACHE OR PAIN IN THE A$$ THAN A SERVICE! -1980 toyota 4x4 - 235/85/16 bfg M/T tires, 03 tacoma wheels, onboard air, trd camshaft, 18" e-fan, weber 32/36 carb, 4.88 yukons, lockright in rear, etc -94 xcab SAS, arb/lockright, 5.29s, 4" lift, etc... Yota tech gallary- http://yotatech.com/gallery/showgall...ser=15173&sl=i <---yes, that is victory blood!

10-28-2009, 08:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Cool, thanks slacker. I have an 83, and I found an 83 power steering set up, so I should be good (once I find a pulley). __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-28-2009, 09:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
82blueyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: spokane wa Posts: 32	well just be aware of the length of your gear box there are some slight variations on box lenght i have read on another tread on here that there is a difference in box lenght.some just dont have th provisoins for the fluid ports. i just put power steering on mine like 3 weeks ago and my power box was shorter and my shaft would not fit(some kind of girth problem) He He. luckily i took the shaft off the truck i robbed it from.

10-29-2009, 06:32 AM	#18 (permalink)
83 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 1,691	Was it the same year truck as yours? __________________ Zach '83 Shortbed 4x4 L52HD Rebuilt & Mostly Stock

10-29-2009, 07:01 PM	#19 (permalink)
82blueyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: spokane wa Posts: 32	i have a 82 and the truck i robbed was an 83

10-29-2009, 07:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
82blueyota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: spokane wa Posts: 32	the door tag said 4/83. me and my buddy puled a 7/83 out of the same spot on his dads property and they bolth have the short shaft.my old box does not have the provisoins or any area where they could be taped im not saying there not out there.

11-01-2009, 04:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
83YotaNator Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 16	Just did this yesterday to my buddies 81 truck. Got the pump and all the brackets from an 89 ifs 22re truck and swapped it over the high pressure line off the pre 85 is the only thing you need i believe and an 83 steering box or tap yours. __________________ 83 std cab long bed 22r 3in front lift springs modded 63in rears custom shackles custom flat bed custom interior Under going the torch for a whole new list of mods full width axles 5in all pro springs bigger tires upgraded brakes build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f114/my-1st-...e-lift-195665/

11-01-2009, 05:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
81yotalove Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: phx, az Posts: 41	My 81 has power steering and power brakes, so maybe its an SR5 how would I know? Is there a certain character on the vin I could look for?

11-01-2009, 05:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	yep ... serial # JT4RN__S ... is an SR5 (this is by memory) . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum Last edited by slacker; 11-01-2009 at 06:01 PM.

11-01-2009, 06:13 PM	#25 (permalink)
81yotalove Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: phx, az Posts: 41	Thanks for the info, so I just checked and mine is a D, what does that stand for?

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