IFS 4wheeling(pics from today with 90s 2dr)

vwfastg60 · 11-27-2006, 12:06 AM

just a few pics from 4wheeling today. My truck is the grey one. Both runners were stock for the mostpart but i thought id share...not everyday you get to wheel with a 2dr 90's bodystyle...That thing was pretty much unstopable!

Had to get crazy in the only mud we found

i was amazed i didnt get stuck or brake anything...what a blast!

Me spotting my friend i let take it through the drop cause it was in a huge playground area and i wanted to see it all go down.
Still no stuck

Enjoy the pics guys.

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vwfastg60 · 11-27-2006, 12:11 AM

Im going to be throwing my 33's on next time cause the 36's rubbed once and it pulled the passengerside lower part away from the bed a bit.im also thinking im going to get a bjspacer and relax my tbars(i have a 4inch lift will i be ok ?).....anyone have input on that or pulling the overloads out of the rear leaf pack?

SwampThing · 11-27-2006, 12:26 AM

Is that... Snow?? Lol wow, we aint never see none that fluffy white stuff round bout these parts I tell you what. Caint even imagine goin muddin in snow. Yall call it Snowin or somethin like that? Haha thats too cool.

Anyhoo, awesome pics. Nice taco!

tc · 11-27-2006, 07:00 AM

Which trail was that, and why didn't you post up so I could join you! LOL

all_terrain17 · 11-27-2006, 09:03 AM

Sweet pics!

Jealous of the 2dr. too

vwfastg60 · 11-27-2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc

Which trail was that, and why didn't you post up so I could join you! LOL

It was Bunce School Road and we did Ironclads we were also tryin to get to the plain crash site but a snowey up hill climb got the black 4runner stuck 4 times and after that he was so upset and tired of us trying to get him out over and over and over he wanted to head back down.

If you want your welcome to go with us cause we have been going about twice a week.Give me a call if you want to go(I will PM you my #)

Russell

AxleIke · 11-27-2006, 10:05 PM

I too would love to join you. Bunce School road is great, as is Middle St. Vrain, just up the road from there.

Look like good pics. Glad you had fun. Post up, i'd love to join you at some point.

Bear80 · 11-27-2006, 11:45 PM

BJ spacers on a bracket lift is a bad idea. From the looks of it, you get ok up travel. The only thing would be to put low profile upper arm stops to gain a bit of downward travel.

Also how are you getting that much flex in the rear! And what length shocks are you using?

fork · 11-28-2006, 03:06 AM

looks like fun. I was too lazy to take pictures this weekend, but also had some fun playing slip n slide up and down muddy clay hills and launching in and out of mud pits. I was shocked when I saw a few stock 90s ifs 2dr toyotas barrel through where I was with almost no problem at all. I followed them for a ways and decided those guys were completely out of their minds and turned around after I watched them descend the steepest, muddiest 50+ foot wall/cliff/hill ever. I'll bet they had a hell of a time getting back up it. I'm also willing to bet one of them rolled or slid into a tree at least once that day. next time i'm out that way i'll take some pictures, or hopefully even some videos of crazy guys in stock toyotas challenging hills no sane person would go up or down on foot.

Too bad I always remember to take pictures after I get back on the street lol

vwfastg60 · 11-28-2006, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear80

BJ spacers on a bracket lift is a bad idea. From the looks of it, you get ok up travel. The only thing would be to put low profile upper arm stops to gain a bit of downward travel.

Also how are you getting that much flex in the rear! And what length shocks are you using?

Honestly i dont think the rear drops out enough.Id like to see more travel.This truck was my first lift and first real 4x4 toy. The reason i say i want more is because the truck is soo light in the rear it seems like i have to really get the weight over the rear and focused on that corner to get it compressed. I have a 3inch extruded block in there and stock springs. The block scares me cause i get some wrap over loose rock. After watching it it was not near as much as my friend made it out to be but still i dont want wrap. I used a cheap shackle kit i found at a parts store. I had them on my old 4runner to kill the sag and with a 3inch lift i wanted to get the back higher then the front so i could sit level with the topper on in the winter and some more room for tire stuff. The rear wheel arch hangs down a lot more im finding and rubbing is easy running 36/14.5/15's is a close fit as is. Im playing with a few ideas for the rear to get more down travel and limit the uptravel so i can keep the 36's on. When i get a chance to try it i will be posting pics of it. For now heres some flexed out pics. This is all she wrote...longer shocks are going to be a must because theres maybe another inch left.When we picked the shocks they were the same size as the procomps that came in my 4inch 4runner lift. We went to the store played with rancho shocks and found ones we could make work using the stock locations.I can get the part# if you want it.

Sitting flat

vwfastg60 · 11-28-2006, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

I too would love to join you. Bunce School road is great, as is Middle St. Vrain, just up the road from there.

Look like good pics. Glad you had fun. Post up, i'd love to join you at some point.

We are always looking for more people to go with us. we do a lot of night wheeling there on the weekends. I will PM you my number too just give me a call if your thinking about going up. We tried for middle st vrain 2 weeks ago but its closed for the season. We were up on friday night and met up with 3 guys in crazy rigs that took us up Ironclads I had to turn around cause my clutch was pretty hot(stupid freeplay adjustment i couldnt find before.) Now my clutch is fine and im exited to go back. We were on our way to the plain crash site but the black one got stuck like 4times and wanted to turn around.This weekend were going up to finish that trail and play in the playground some more.

We dont get too crazy when we go because most of the guys i know have stock or near stock rigs. Im just getting in to this a bit more hardcore so im learning as i go and getting over my in seat fears.Wheeling my truck is night and day from stock and its taking some work to get the feeling of control back.

Sonofmayhem · 11-28-2006, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc

Which trail was that, and why didn't you post up so I could join you! LOL

x2? WTF man lol

04 Rocko Taco · 11-28-2006, 10:49 AM

VW, PM sent.

Bear80 · 11-28-2006, 11:36 AM

Yeah if you can get me the # for the shocks. I'm working on getting things in order for my chevy springs and I want to keep the stock shock locations but use the longest possible shocks.

shoes138 · 11-28-2006, 12:11 PM

holy crap man i wish i had a 4wd yota!

91ToyTrck · 11-28-2006, 12:26 PM

That's some really nice pics from that trail. I love watching IFS trucks tear up a trail.

**Tofer** · 11-28-2006, 12:34 PM

your running 36x14.5's on IFS

sweet pics tho!

SwampThing · 11-28-2006, 10:12 PM

VW, are those the stock leafs with like a 4-5" shackle, or...? Cause I was debating on whether to get either a 4" leaf pack from superlift (or somewhere), or go with a longer shackle. How're they holdin up for you?

norcalyota · 11-28-2006, 11:43 PM

i am thinkin about doin the 4" leaf or longer shackles also. blocks just dont cut it. which one would you recomend.

SwampThing · 11-29-2006, 01:11 AM

Yeah I'm using 2" blocks right now, and you're right, they just aint cut it. Was thinkin bout goin with Superlift's 4" leaf pack ($124.99 a piece), but was planning on doing the longer shackle first. Cause that way, get a little bit more use outta my stock leafs, and when I get the new leafs, it'll be even bigger.

Gonna be sittin with its ass up in the air, but I haven't figured out what imma do bout the front yet...

(Sorry bout thread hi-jacking lol)

AH64ID · 11-29-2006, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwfastg60

im also thinking im going to get a bjspacer and relax my tbars(i have a 4inch lift will i be ok ?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear80

BJ spacers on a bracket lift is a bad idea. From the looks of it, you get ok up travel. The only thing would be to put low profile upper arm stops to gain a bit of downward travel.

Umm... BJ spacers were actually deisgned for bracket lifts... they dont affect a bracket lift negativly in any way at all. All BJ spacers do is provide extra droop, no compression or more room for tires...

Go for it, if I wasnt selling my truck I would probally be adding BJ spacers for the droop.. .Just be warned thats extra CV stress and with those big tires that can spell BANG!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofer

your running 36x14.5's on IFS

Yeah thats huge, I thought my 35's with no BL was big but dang

Bear80 · 11-29-2006, 10:59 AM

I would think that the 1 5/8" spacers would just add leverage on top of what the brackets already do. From what I've seen, yes the spacers started for use on bracket lifts but they where only 1" or less. Which the original design of the spacers where made to relax the t-bars and give UPWARD travel, added drop was just a side effect.

91ToyTrck · 11-29-2006, 12:12 PM

That's very interesting to know about the Ball Joint Spacers. It's good to know new things.

Bear80 · 11-29-2006, 06:49 PM

I just did some reading on the bj spacers after what AH64ID said. He is correct that guys are putting the 1.5" spacers on brackets lifts with no issues. I know I first saw them being used as home made units over 7yrs ago. Also some may acutally be 1.5" but I know mine where 1 5/8" even when it was advertised as 1.5" Which really screwed me since I desinged my lift with 1.5", so you should double check and never take someones word.

AH64ID · 11-29-2006, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear80

I just did some reading on the bj spacers after what AH64ID said. He is correct that guys are putting the 1.5" spacers on brackets lifts with no issues. I know I first saw them being used as home made units over 7yrs ago. Also some may acutally be 1.5" but I know mine where 1 5/8" even when it was advertised as 1.5" Which really screwed me since I desinged my lift with 1.5", so you should double check and never take someones word.

Does the 1/8" reall make a huge difference? Your talking about loosening the tbars a turn or two for the 1.5" lift, giving a softer ride...

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all_terrain17 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 748	Sweet pics! Jealous of the 2dr. too __________________ 94' Pickup

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AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,886	I too would love to join you. Bunce School road is great, as is Middle St. Vrain, just up the road from there. Look like good pics. Glad you had fun. Post up, i'd love to join you at some point. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

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Bear80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 364	BJ spacers on a bracket lift is a bad idea. From the looks of it, you get ok up travel. The only thing would be to put low profile upper arm stops to gain a bit of downward travel. Also how are you getting that much flex in the rear! And what length shocks are you using? __________________ 1986 Truck - Monster IFS 1997 FZJ80 - Locked, Lifted, Ready Range Rover Recovery Vehicle Last edited by Bear80; 11-27-2006 at 11:46 PM.

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fork Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: out in the pacific Posts: 646	looks like fun. I was too lazy to take pictures this weekend, but also had some fun playing slip n slide up and down muddy clay hills and launching in and out of mud pits. I was shocked when I saw a few stock 90s ifs 2dr toyotas barrel through where I was with almost no problem at all. I followed them for a ways and decided those guys were completely out of their minds and turned around after I watched them descend the steepest, muddiest 50+ foot wall/cliff/hill ever. I'll bet they had a hell of a time getting back up it. I'm also willing to bet one of them rolled or slid into a tree at least once that day. next time i'm out that way i'll take some pictures, or hopefully even some videos of crazy guys in stock toyotas challenging hills no sane person would go up or down on foot. Too bad I always remember to take pictures after I get back on the street lol

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Bear80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 364	Yeah if you can get me the # for the shocks. I'm working on getting things in order for my chevy springs and I want to keep the stock shock locations but use the longest possible shocks. __________________ 1986 Truck - Monster IFS 1997 FZJ80 - Locked, Lifted, Ready Range Rover Recovery Vehicle

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shoes138 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Folsom, Ca(near Sac) Posts: 456	holy crap man i wish i had a 4wd yota!

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91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	That's some really nice pics from that trail. I love watching IFS trucks tear up a trail. __________________ '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee DD till I can afford my '05+ Tacoma

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norcalyota Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sebastopol, California Posts: 68	i am thinkin about doin the 4" leaf or longer shackles also. blocks just dont cut it. which one would you recomend.

11-29-2006, 10:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
Bear80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 364	I would think that the 1 5/8" spacers would just add leverage on top of what the brackets already do. From what I've seen, yes the spacers started for use on bracket lifts but they where only 1" or less. Which the original design of the spacers where made to relax the t-bars and give UPWARD travel, added drop was just a side effect. __________________ 1986 Truck - Monster IFS 1997 FZJ80 - Locked, Lifted, Ready Range Rover Recovery Vehicle

11-29-2006, 12:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	That's very interesting to know about the Ball Joint Spacers. It's good to know new things. __________________ '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee DD till I can afford my '05+ Tacoma

11-29-2006, 06:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
Bear80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 364	I just did some reading on the bj spacers after what AH64ID said. He is correct that guys are putting the 1.5" spacers on brackets lifts with no issues. I know I first saw them being used as home made units over 7yrs ago. Also some may acutally be 1.5" but I know mine where 1 5/8" even when it was advertised as 1.5" Which really screwed me since I desinged my lift with 1.5", so you should double check and never take someones word. __________________ 1986 Truck - Monster IFS 1997 FZJ80 - Locked, Lifted, Ready Range Rover Recovery Vehicle

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