I've been looking at the TJM's and I have realized that I really want one with the grille guard (T-15) but that's going to cost close to 1g after shipping.

I found this sale going on for this ARB and it seems like a good deal. Shipping is free, but since this is so big they probably will add a fee (understandable) so even so, it will most likely be under $750. What do you guys think? It looks very similar to the TJM T-15 quality-wise and the design is close as well.

I've notice that TJM is more popular than ARB. Is that a hint that they are better? Anyway... what do you guys think?

http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/produ...ular&man=BULL#

 

I've always thought ARB was more popular They just seem to always be more expensive than TJM. I'd go with the ARB in this case. Cheaper than the TJM and looks really good too.

 

They have ARB's on ebay for under 700 shipped!!!

 

ARB is supposed to be really strong although I think the TJM has better approach angles--if you search engough posts there is a thread about this.

 

A jeeper friend of mine bought his ARB directly from Aussyland, and with shipping to the US it was around $600.

 

I have a TJM-15 and love it, but I like the ARB as well. I think ARB is a touch tougher, I think the TJM is a touch cleaner looking. They are about the same price. Rubicon 4X4 sold me mine for around $730.00 shipped a few months ago. Others sell the ARB for around $700.00 Shipped. Get what you like.

 

I think I'd rather get the TJM-15 (yeah, I think it looks just a bit better... both really nice though) but I can't seem to find the 15 for as cheap as the ARB. I'll check out Rubicon 4x4 and if they can get the T-15 for 730 shipped then I might go that route. But hmmm... if they are the same price in the end, then I'll really have to think about which one to choose because I was going to go ARB since they were cheaper. Hmm... hmm....

 

Aussyland? Is that a website because www.Aussyland.com does not work. $600 would be nice.

 

I think he was talking about the country (Australia), you know, the land down under with crocs and kangaroos. That is where the ARB & TJM are designed and manufactured. The reason they are called bull bars is because they were designed to protect your truck if you hit a big bull kangaroo. Kangaroos will jump out into the road just like deer do here in the US.

 

Haha, well I figured it wasn't exactly a website. I guess I was just hoping.

 

There is one other thing I like more about ARBs, the powder coat on the ARB's is tougher and doesn't scratch as easy. My TJM had a bunch of little scratches all over it right out of the box.

 

I have a TJM. It is a nice unit, but I wish I had an ARB. The difference is substantial.

Gadget

 

OK, so what is the difference? Is the quality that much different? And what about the approach angles?

 

With the ARBs you don't have those stupid bolt-on wings with the gap filled with big rubber trim to deal with. The bumper and mounting bracket is all one piece so it's stronger and won't shift on you in an accident. The downside to that is you don't have any adjustment for the bumper height. I was able to modifiy my TJM fairly easyly for my 1 inch body lift and kept the gap between the bumper and fender the same as before. Here is my gap now with 1"BL http://community.webshots.com/photo/...57765725hxZrqO with the ARB there is no easy way to modify the height and that gap would be about 1.5 inches with my 1"BL.

 

I'm for ARB over TJM, but I'm a little partial.

 

Seen both, felt of both, examined both. ARB is one piece. TJM is essentially three pieces. IMO ARB is a beefier bumper, but I'm kinda partial too.

 

im in the process of buying an arb...

 

4x4connection has the t-15 for $606 plus shipping


http://www.4by4connection.com/toyota7.html

 

i love my arb. really tough bumper. looks good too, i think. only downside is the plastic things on the front. i ripped one off a few months ago, but oh well.

 

Not for the pickup though. I don't understand why they won't fit the same. Do they? Maybe they do....

They have the T-13 for the same price... and I actually like the look better. I think I'm going to go with ARB though because they are stronger and look better stock. Although I wish ARB made one like the TJM 13.