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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 08:37 AM
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Is my 4runner toast? W/pic

Halloween night a Mazada 3 pull out in front of me- making a left turn while I had no street signs to heed to going straight. I hit the passenger side of her car-- the damage was substantial considering I have a rock slider bumper.

91 4runner 4x4 3vze

I originally thought there was no damage other than my self fabricated turn signals but when I drove it from the accident I noticed my wheel on the side(drivers) that was impacted was cocked to the left with the steering wheel straight. So I thought now I had an alignment issue. To be honest I didn't want to look at it because this truck has been my baby I got it, it wasnt fit to run. I pulled the motor myself with no experience doing that. Had it rebuilt at a shop in TX put the whole thing back together by myself again. And gradually upgraded (rancho suspension, brand new beefy CVs, 33s black wheels) to rig that I get compliments for constantly. Even posted it on here a couple times.

So I go out today and I take a better look and I couldn't find anything bent or out of place on my suspension or steering mechanics. I took a look a the Frame seems to be bent in causing the wheel to be cocked out like it is.

In such a popular thread I know there are Yota mechanics but Id also assume there are insurance assessors as well. So my two questions are is a bent frame unfixable in any case and to the insurance experts would this total my vehicle?


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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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Call a few local body shops that do collision repairs, you need on with a frame jig. Compare their prices with local replacement prices.

Almost anything is fixable, but is the cost acceptable.
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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 05:55 PM
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The one thing that sucks abt those bumpers is that they do not absorb the collision force, they transfer it.

I had an 88 runner that hydroplaned and hit a concrete road barrier. Messed up the bumper and frame. It took me a while to find a shop that would take it on. Most collision repair places are fixing modern frames, prius, ford focus, whatever, they dont want to do this work.
one foreign auto shop said theyd do it but:
i took it to an old school mechanic down the street who had a pole cemented into his slab and cranked a chain between that and another pole and pulled the frame "straight." He pulled his pole out of the slab in the process, and he said he'd never done that before and this guy had some gray hairs. The toyota box frame is very strong compared to even 1 ton domestic trucks of the same era, with C channel frames. I think I paid the guy somewhere around 500 for the job?
i sold the runner not long after but it drove straight while I had it.

Moral of the story: if you like this vehicle, yes you can fix it.
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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 05:57 PM
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What is the kelly blue book on the vehicle and what is the repair cost?
if repair cost is higher, theyll probly total it. Could work out in your favor if you want it to be a dedicated wheeler
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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 05:58 PM
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Take some pics of where you think the bend is. I might be able to dig up some of mine on an old computer .
And sorry to hear about the accident, thankfully you were able to walk away from it.
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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by swampedout
The one thing that sucks abt those bumpers is that they do not absorb the collision force, they transfer it.
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Remember when bumpers were mounted on a shock absorber, you would hit something the shock compressed then exploded and threw the bumper out.

Yeah digress.

You can see the diff/frame bracket is mangled on the left side of the vehicle. So the cam adjustment is off.

It also appears there might be some tweaking of the frame rails since the front crossmember is jacked up.
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Old Nov 6, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by swampedout
Take some pics of where you think the bend is. I might be able to dig up some of mine on an old computer .
And sorry to hear about the accident, thankfully you were able to walk away from it.
redundant.. The FSM body section gives frame dimensions and points to measure between. A shop with a frame jig should have the bars(SST) to check that.
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