Gentlemen:

Just did a head gasket & water pump job on my 22R, and it looks as though I might have wasted my time...

What came out of my oil pan looked like brown latex paint (thick!) and filled up a 4-gallon bucket 1/2 way. Ran some water through the radiator with the oil drain plug off and there's a steady stream coming out.

I mean, I know what happened, but I just wanted some feedback on whether or not it could be a cracked block, cracked head, or possibly both. I have a head from another motor I can use that's in good shape, but I'm not gonna bother if the current motor is toast. Can running these things hot crack the block as well?

Any thoughts and input would help...

Thx MM

 

you put water in the radiator, and it came out of the engine oil drain in a steady stream?

 

that does seem do be what he said.

 

That scares me

 

Yea no joke, for water to drain out of the oil pan while filling the radiator either the block or head has a major problem.

 

He never did say anything about doing the timing chain!!

Or why the head gasket was changed in the first place .

It would have to be one huge crack to allow water to just pour out of the oil pan.

If the timing guides had destructed and wore into the timing cover a hole the size of the chain dumping coolant into the timing cover .

That could very easily have water pouring into the oil pan and the milkshake of brown sludge

 

^beat me to it

 

I was gonna say, my money is on a damaged timing cover by the timing chain. There are many threads on just that.

 

I didn't look at the timing chain cover, but I changed out the head gasket after the thing kept overheating on me and losing water/coolant. The HG WAS in fact bad and I replaced the water pump too.

There was a LOT of water in the oil when I drained the pan - it looked like someone dumped 2 gallons of paint in there it was so thick! I figured this water had to be coming from somewhere, so I started filling up the radiator just to see where my leak might be, and it started coming out the oil drain hole not long after it hit the block, I could hear it gurgling in there.

Would a worn timing chain cover allow water to seep through that much? I saw the threads on how to remove it, and that will be my next step, but where should I look for the hole or crack (if it's not apparent)?

MM

 

If the chain chewed into the cover you will see it on the driver side of the cover.

This is what it looks like if someone tries to repair the old cover. You better off just getting a new one if it is the problem.