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Decided to get the runner a little airborne & i tweaked the front sub frame. Help??

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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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Decided to get the runner a little airborne & i tweaked the front sub frame. Help??

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99 4runner limited
3" suspension lift
2" body lift
285/75/16 MT's

Ok yes I'm a moron for doing this, I'm not looking for the peanut gallery but maybe what my options are or what the best sollution could be.

Yeah I was off roading a while back and there was a small berm about 2 feet high and i drove over it at about 15mph being a little abrupt, well i decided to hit again but around more like 40mph and get the truck a little airborne. Well the problem is I cleared the berm completly are landed on the other side which was another 2 feet lower then the two feet of air I already gained. Well aparently are 4runners our very nose heavy because I landed at about a 45 degree angle onto the front two wheels from an estimated 4 feet in the air.

Ok before you read any further I'm sure your looking a reason to call me a moron lol. I would say I would blame it on the toyota commericals that I thought my 4runner was bullet proof, but thats not the case lol. I didnt think I was going to land on the front at such an angle or clear the burm completly.

ANYWAYS, I took it to a local speed shop who have done alot of work for me in the past and have a 4runner guy there working. They took some measurments and found my sub frame has kinda been tweaked towards the rear. Its not noticable by the naked eye, but under full lock with 5" of lift and 33's I still rub on full lock, hence the wheels sits a little towards the back.

I already had the caster maxed out to help move the wheels forward some but it still rubs a bit like i said under full lock.

My question is, should I attempt to cut and reweld the frame (estimated cost by the shop of about $1500 dollars) or go for a straigh axle swap.

Any help on my less then smart decision is appreciated .

Ryan

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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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Sorry I do not have any insight on frame issues, but would like to see a 4runner 4 feet in the air.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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This your only vehicle? Or a trail rig only possibility?

Only vehicle - fix it. Trail rig - hack away.



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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Well the SAS would require a lot more money! But, would probably be less money down the road than trying to get that thing back straight.

I have been saving up for the last 3 years. After I put on my subframe (drop bracket lift), and cut off my crossmember I have decided to cut it all off and start fresh.... too top heavy for an IFS. Although it preforms perfect for Baja camping.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Well this is my only truck for right now lol. I plan on putting a vette in the driveway by the end of summer with the runner . Anyways what kind of cost am I looking at for a SAS? Alot more then the $1500 to cut and reweld it? Thanks for the responses and sorry no pics, wasent taping it since I didnt expect to go that high lol.

Ryan
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
Only vehicle - fix it. Trail rig - hack away.
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Well this is my only truck for right now lol. I plan on putting a vette in the driveway by the end of summer with the runner .
There's your answer; if you get a corvette, then hack away.

If they do the framework though, make sure they install a "Dixie Horn" for next time
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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okie81 got jokes eh? LOL.

Does anyone know the rough costs to do a SAS?
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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i think a kit (not including the axle) costs about $1,100.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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for a 3rd gen, i'm gonna guess around $2000-$2500

on a budget and doing EVERYTHING yourself..prolly $1500
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Not off hand, but if you search it you could get an estimate and see how its done.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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I searched around and not to many posts talked about price. One guy stated he thought it was between 5-8 thousand dollars, so i dont think he knew what he was talking about lol.

Does anyone sell a complete kit or I have to piece it togeather off of sonoransteel's parts list?
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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if you do SAS and if you have some extra $$$ after buying SAS parts then you should look into having a 4x4 shop do the install, seen a few people do their own installs then break hoops and shackles due to bad welds that looked okay on the surface.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
for a 3rd gen, i'm gonna guess around $2000-$2500
i would guess 2600-3200 for kit, axle, and full install.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Check this crazy SAS in progress on T4R. If you wanna see how it's done throughly and effectively, you should scroll through his built up. Although he did say it was costing him upwards of 10k.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...has-begun.html
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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I know this one dumb guy who did that with his awhile ago....



his also came down a little nose heavy
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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right way


wrong way

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Typically if folks say $2k it will realistically cost you $4k+.

It is all relative to how cheaply you can find parts, labor and incidentals and accidentals.

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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MillerPKA
wrong way

That looked to be painful
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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I've read a lot of threads for Tacoma SAS's and they seem to cost $3-$8k depending on how expensive you wanna go. I'd personally save up at least $5k before starting.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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