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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Quick help! Is my thermostat opening enough? pic

This is right out of boiling water (over 200deg). It's a 195 tstat. Could this be my restriction? Would the pressure of the water pump while installed push it open the rest of the way??
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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The one on the left is open most of the way, the one on the right is not:


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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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So what's your opinion?
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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So what's your opinion?
Your pic makes it hard to tell, that's why I just showed you one that was clearer. Is that a Toyota OEM t-stat?
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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No. Napa (I'm told). I know that whY you see is only about 30%~40% of what I can push it open by hand.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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I would say it is stuck shut.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Ok, went to the store and got another 192 tstat. Decided to play Bill Nye and dropped both of them in the same pot of water and watch. The new one opened twice as wide...

Waiting 'til the hot part of the day to take it out to some hills to see if it still goes over normal under load.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Installed and tested, still overheating under load.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Not sure about the 22re, but the stock V6 t-stat is about 180* F. I run a 160*F myself.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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I even drilled a 5/32nds hole next to the little brass valve. I'm stumped.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Fan Clutch, restricted fins on radiator, bad radiator. All or any of the above. Oh maybe coolant hose colapsing, water pump not pumping. I was having a heat issue with my 22re, when the AC was on, I replaced fan clutch and it seems to have fixed it.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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E-fan, all parts mentioned are 10k miles new.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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Next step: replace "bargain" copper/brass radiator I got during rebuild with an aluminum two core. Should be here next week. I'm thinking/hoping that my overheats at higher rpm could be due to poor flow in a cheap radiator. Maybe the larger passages on the aluminum will do the trick. Resorting to taking shots in the dark, now.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Another thing to check for with high rpm overheating is a collapse of the lower radiator hose. Especially if you are using a cheap hose. The lower hose is at the intake to the waterpump and can get sucked shut at high rpms. Some hoses will come with a coil of wire to keep the hose from collapsing.

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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Are you circulating coolant? Clamp the upper radiator hose for a little while then let it go and there should be a surge of coolant. Obviously you need to check this with the radiator cap off.

Do your "all parts mentioned" include the water pump?
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Yes, pump included.

Goat: So you're talking the lower hose "engine to pipe," or "pipe to radiator?" Both, perhaps?

Would having a friend tach it to about 4k rpms in neutral demonstrate this, if it's happening?
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Also, the local parts places (Napa, AZ, Kragen) don't show any hoses with wires in them. Got a source?
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Also, the local parts places (Napa, AZ, Kragen) don't show any hoses with wires in them. Got a source?
The one in the pic came from Pepboys.

Not sure what you mean by pipe? The lower hose is the lower hose. There is an upper hose to the radiator and a lower hose.
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by qdude79

Would having a friend tach it to about 4k rpms in neutral demonstrate this, if it's happening?
I've heard that's the way to check it.

Of course the t-stat would have to be open to check it that way.

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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Maybe I'm calling it by the wrong name, then. #10 is what I think you're referring to, #12 is the one I was asking about.


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