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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Talking well well well, look what UPS done dropped off fer me

well if you saw my past thread about these guys, you know what my plans are



I'm so impatient





I also got some thicker t-bars with them too, but I'm not sure if I'm going to use them as of yet; I think the flex will benifet a little more with the stock t-bars, but we'll see. If I don't use 'em, their going on eBay



man I can't wait to finish getting all the parts together and begin the install...

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Great find. Ever since I saw this thread http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...936-rotbw.html, I've wondered about those.

Take lots of pictures
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Great find. Ever since I saw this thread http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...936-rotbw.html, I've wondered about those.

Take lots of pictures
haha, that's the thread that made me look into it a lot more!

then I bought the only set of Rancho UCAs I could find from this man

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741645

...as you can see by the last post in that thread, lol
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Nice! Thats awsume. So what exactly do these things do? Do they work with a diff drop to give lift?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Nice! Thats awsume. So what exactly do these things do?
ummmm, they look pretty!

but aside from adding a little flash to the suspention the way the pivot point is mounted to the frame, they alow the arms to be a bit longer than the stockers, which is what the LT kits take advantage of and allow for a little more travel. Though not as much travel as an LT kit will offer, if set up correcetly, the UCA in combination with a BJ spacer, low profile bump stops, and diff drop to keep the CVs from exploding, will allow for 12+ inches of wheel travel on each side! The longer arms also change the load on the t-bars because of the leverage on them, so it easier to compress them, so on stock t-bars the flex will be improved quite a bit (hince why I may opt out of using the thicker t-bars; the thicker bars might keep me from reaching full compression)

at least, this is the theory from what I read and hear about them

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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SAWWWWEEEETTT !!
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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what would we do without the UPS guy?

One of my favorite forms of entertainment is following the tracking on items shipped to me.


I know, I'm easily entertained
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Your worse than a little kid
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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hell ya let us know how she works when its done
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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hey, i think that the UPS guy delivered those to the wrong house... they were supposed to go to mine!
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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nice
lmao the spacers all ready to go
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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Nice man. I am looking forward to the install thread!!
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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mmmmm, me likes... can't wait to see these installed
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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x2 with lots pics!
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:54 AM
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but aside from adding a little flash to the suspention the way the pivot point is mounted to the frame, they alow the arms to be a bit longer than the stockers, which is what the LT kits take advantage of and allow for a little more travel. Though not as much travel as an LT kit will offer, if set up correcetly, the UCA in combination with a BJ spacer, low profile bump stops, and diff drop to keep the CVs from exploding, will allow for 12+ inches of wheel travel on each side! The longer arms also change the load on the t-bars because of the leverage on them, so it easier to compress them, so on stock t-bars the flex will be improved quite a bit (hince why I may opt out of using the thicker t-bars; the thicker bars might keep me from reaching full compression)

at least, this is the theory from what I read and hear about them
nothing like LT suspension, they do the same thing as a balljoint spacer by pushing the spindle down (allowing more down travel before the upper arm hits the bumpstop). while the arm may be longer, it is curved, so the length from the pivot point on the frame to the balljoint is the same distance (no increase in leverage on the torsion bar). If you were to increase the length of the upper arm it would destroy the alignment unless you also increased the lower arm (positive camber, top of tire pushing out -> \ / ). You'd also have problems with the stock inner CV's being pulled out of the "cup".

but nice find none-the-less

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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all this talk flooding myspace with red and yet its still on your bedroom floor? hwy is it not on the truck yet???
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by just a 22re
all this talk flooding myspace with red and yet its still on your bedroom floor? hwy is it not on the truck yet???
cause I'm getting all the parts together first

it's still my daily driver, which it will still remain my daily driver after the install, so once everything's gathered together, I'm going to borrow my father's extra truck, a little Sonoma, and drive around in it back and forth to work while I tear my Yote apart.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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nothing like LT suspension, they do the same thing as a balljoint spacer by pushing the spindle down (allowing more down travel before the upper arm hits the bumpstop). while the arm may be longer, it is curved, so the length from the pivot point on the frame to the balljoint is the same distance (no increase in leverage on the torsion bar). If you were to increase the length of the upper arm it would destroy the alignment unless you also increased the lower arm (positive camber, top of tire pushing out -> \ / ). You'd also have problems with the stock inner CV's being pulled out of the "cup".

but nice find none-the-less
if I'm not mistaken, they're able to be longer because the pivot/rotation point is further in on the frame, acually inside the frame

from my understanding...



of caurse this is a rough sketching with Paint



but non of that extra travel could be accomplished with low profile bump stops, and some custom CVs, which are all on the list

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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if I'm not mistaken, they're able to be longer because the pivot/rotation point is further in on the frame, acually inside the frame

of caurse this is a rough sketching with Paint



but non of that extra travel could be accomplished with low profile bump stops, and some custom CVs, which are all on the list
ahhh, OK. I understand now, didn't see that they mount further in. That would increase your "lever arm" and since its only a little bit further in you shouldn't have any problems with torsion bar alignment. Good job
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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ahhh, OK. I understand now, didn't see that they mount further in. That would increase your "lever arm" and since its only a little bit further in you shouldn't have any problems with torsion bar alignment. Good job
haha, it's all good

I had to see a pic of them installed to understand it




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