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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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starter not working when hot

so my truck just clicks when i turn the key sometimes, but its usually only when its been recently driven. if i let it sit for a while it will start just fine but if i have been driving for a while it wont start. i just replaced my starter contacts recently and that helped for a while but it started doing it again recently, what could be causing my problems?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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id say get a new starter. thats usually a sign of the starter dying. when i had my oem starter, it would do that, and sure enuf it was bad. id just replace it
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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yeah what my yotatech friend above me said
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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yeah, what my yotatech friend above the guy above me said.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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wwwoooooowwwwwww (joeys voice from friends)
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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'friends' is a horrible show. it makes me want to myself.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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So one helpful post and 4 gibberish....I think we have infected yotatech heh.

I would say grab one from a local wrecking yard. The exhaust should have adaquete heat shielding to protect the starter. If not, and you are worried about it happening again, you may want to fab a heat shield for your truck.

FWIW, this exact same problem occured in my 84 VW Rabbit back in the day. Wouldn't start to save its precious little life when it was hot. Once cooled down, it was fine. It came from the starter being so worn out and goobered up inside, and not the contacts.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Make sure 710 cap is on. That could cause "slight" problems. And, you don't want nunna that...trust me.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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matthew no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not here to!!
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 01:45 AM
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 02:58 AM
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I had the same starter problem with a reman unit i got at Autobone. They swapped me another one free, but i fabbed up an aluminum heat shield. Mounted with the starter hardware, and never had another problem.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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I must apologize for myself and a few of the others here.
It appears the lunatics have taken over teh asylum.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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Its called heat soak. You can try putting some sort of insulation on the starter to keep it from absorbing so much heat or wrap your exhaust. This is very common on domestic vehicles. Do you have a stock exhaust?
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
So one helpful post and 4 gibberish....I think we have infected yotatech heh.

I would say grab one from a local wrecking yard. The exhaust should have adaquete heat shielding to protect the starter. If not, and you are worried about it happening again, you may want to fab a heat shield for your truck.

FWIW, this exact same problem occured in my 84 VW Rabbit back in the day. Wouldn't start to save its precious little life when it was hot. Once cooled down, it was fine. It came from the starter being so worn out and goobered up inside, and not the contacts.
the exhaust is on the opposite side of the truck, could it really be causing problems? the problem with getting one from a junkyard is the junkyards around here usually dont have alot of toyota parts.

victor- no i do not have stock exhaust, see signature

thook and just a 22re....get out... go spam somewhere else

if i cant find one in a junkyard would i be able to rebuild it and solve my problem? i dont want to use one of those crappy autopart store starters unless its my only option
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Hmm, you are correct. I didn't even think of that regarding the exhaust.

I do not know if you could rebuild yours, without taking it apart and seeing what the insides look like.

give me a call at 800-782-0682. Ask for me (Josh) and I will look a starter up for you. We can also ship to Wenatchee, and you should be able to see it by saturday (stupid holiday lol)

Btw Matt and Allan mean no harm, its an ongoing YT inside joke lol.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Heat soak usually happens in Chevy's V8's since they have their starter so close to the exhaust but also happens in a lot of other vehicles. If your starter is getting that hot then it is probably time to open it up and change out the contacts - I think Roger Brown sells them. Make sure you clean the case and windings very well.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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yeah sorry if e got you mad but as for the starter i say replace it with if you have a friend with the same and see if that helps maybe the cables are getting hot and causing alot more resitance? get it hot and run differnt wires to the battery to the starter and jump it to the starter switch on the starter
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Check out this link: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#OtherOptions
and check out the section towards the bottom - 'What if it's not the solenoid?'.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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thanks for the help guys!
Deathcougar- im busy all weekend so it proally wont be till monday or tuesday that i can get to it

victor- im really sure how hot its really getting but it only has problems when i have been driving it around and made a couple short trips, but i just replaced the contacts about 3 weeks ago so and it fixed it for a while

well im on the oustide of the joke so i had no idea as to what was going on...

that looks like a good article mtnfreak thanks!
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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If you replace the starter and continue to have problems do the following:
Replace the positive cable from the battery. They internally break down and go high resistance under heat. Pull all grounds and clean them well. Check quality of little wire to solenoid to make sure all the strands are solid. Quality of ignition switch is always a concern on old trucks.

That should do it.
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