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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Need to Tighten up front suspension w/ ARB bumper and Warn m8000?

I'm ordering a ARB bumper and warn m8000 later today and wondering if i'm going to have to tighten up the front suspension at all. the winch weights 75lbs and the bumpers probably at least 80lbs. i know people have this exact setup so let me know what you've done.

-right now i've got 4 month old bilsteins all around. Everything is at stock height.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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wow the winch is 74 pounds?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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i believe so.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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My buddy has an m8000 with the hitch adaptor and it weigh's a ton. You can carry it by yourself, but you won't walk away smiling.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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I think that officially made up my mind about wanting a winch for my truck.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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You'll probably need to crank the torsion bars up a little bit.

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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or get some b.j. spacers and keep the tbars at stock, get 1.5 in lift and same ride with a little better travel.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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we'll see how much it brings it down. I weight 170 and it doesn't go down too much.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 91ToyTrck
I think that officially made up my mind about wanting a winch for my truck.
Go with one of the "light weight" tupe type bumpers for the front and get rid of that @$%@$ steel cable on the winch.
Use one of the synthetic lines available and an aluminum haws type fairlead.





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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Yeah the torsion bar trick should work...

When I added my custom bumber and Warn 9500 My leafs flattened out quite a bit. My winch when it had cable was like 85 lbs. But with synthetic it is much better!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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The steel cable weighs a LOT. Take that junk off and get synthetic cable. Much less weight, and no metal shards slcing your hands up.

Best mod I ever did to my 87 was a winch.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
The steel cable weighs a LOT. Take that junk off and get synthetic cable. Much less weight, and no metal shards slcing your hands up.

Best mod I ever did to my 87 was a winch.
Don't forget to take care of the nylon line. UV from the sun will damage it so you'll have to get a cover of some sort.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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This is an application where if your stock torsion bars do begin to sag a bit (they're 22.8 MM), to replace them with the slightly more beefy 23.4 MM Old Man Emu (OME) Torson bars. Somehow me thinks that OME designed their torsion bars to be slightly thicker than stock to work in conjunction with one of their bumpers/winch - so the extra 0.6 mm can help cope with the added weight and help maintain a stock-ish ride with less fatigue occurring at the same time.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CoedNaked
This is an application where if your stock torsion bars do begin to sag a bit (they're 22.8 MM), to replace them with the slightly more beefy 23.4 MM Old Man Emu (OME) Torson bars. Somehow me thinks that OME designed their torsion bars to be slightly thicker than stock to work in conjunction with one of their bumpers/winch - so the extra 0.6 mm can help cope with the added weight and help maintain a stock-ish ride with less fatigue occurring at the same time.
I already have an ARB and it made my front end sag a little, I think it will be worse when i get a winch. I think I may go this road, the OME torsion bars that is...I don't want to do BJ spacers, as I came to that conclusion in a thread I started a while back, but I think that some beefier torsion bars would stiffen it up a bit and bear the weight better. I just wonder if it will ride a lot worse.....

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bob200587
I already have an ARB and it made my front end sag a little, I think it will be worse when i get a winch. I think I may go this road, the OME torsion bars that is...I don't want to do BJ spacers, as I came to that conclusion in a thread I started a while back, but I think that some beefier torsion bars would stiffen it up a bit and bear the weight better. I just wonder if it will ride a lot worse.....
It may not ride much "worse", but it'll certainly not flex as well offroad.





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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MARSHALLMAY
Don't forget to take care of the nylon line. UV from the sun will damage it so you'll have to get a cover of some sort.
Ah, the lines aren't nylon.
At any rate, they aren't sun damaged very easily. They're from the boating sector and have been used on boats for many, many, many years.
The one that I had on my Jeep, I had for about 3 years, fully exposed to the intense sun out here in S. AZ. with no problems at all.


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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
It may not ride much "worse", but it'll certainly not flex as well offroad.





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oh well
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bob200587
I don't want to do BJ spacers, as I came to that conclusion in a thread I started a while back...
Which thread was this? I'd like to read about it.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bob200587
I already have an ARB and it made my front end sag a little, I think it will be worse when i get a winch. I think I may go this road, the OME torsion bars that is...I don't want to do BJ spacers, as I came to that conclusion in a thread I started a while back, but I think that some beefier torsion bars would stiffen it up a bit and bear the weight better. I just wonder if it will ride a lot worse.....
i dont know how bj spacers get a bad name but i beat the hell out of mine w/out any problems
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
Ah, the lines aren't nylon.
At any rate, they aren't sun damaged very easily. They're from the boating sector and have been used on boats for many, many, many years.
The one that I had on my Jeep, I had for about 3 years, fully exposed to the intense sun out here in S. AZ. with no problems at all.


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NYLON is polymer warn synthetic rope is made of polymer
Maybe 3 years in the sun won't damage it much. But if you covered it, It would last alot longer than if you didn't. And being that the warn NYLON LINE is over $500, I'd cover it.

Marshall

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