AxleIke

Scotty, how are you attaching that?

If its just the four front bolts, did you reinforce the top two mounts?

ScottyC

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In the case of the ones above yes, we welded 1/4" plate and with 1/4" C-channel for the two uppers.

I normally recommend guys either weld on the bumper in 1" stitches or weld in the 1/4 wall plate behind it. I have had two of my bumpers ripped off people's rigs who didn't do this. Nothing happened to the bumper itself, just the stock mounting holes were ripped through the frame. Once fixed correctly, the bumper went right back on.

UCDBunsen

Nicely done.

netwt12

i sure wish i was closer to you. i could keep you busy for a while.

Hybrid901

Do you have anymore pics? What finish are these sold with? What is the largest Warn winch that can fit?

ScottyC

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It will fit any winch with a standard 10x4.5" pattern. Warn HS9500 is what we used on one already for measurements. It will not fit an upright 8274 though. The integrated solenoid ones may require minor trimming of the grill though. Non integrated ones shouldn't.

Its bare metal, because they are shipped with just a label on them. Its impossible to box these up, and powder coating and boxing to protect it would add a significant cost to the price. Thus the reason an ARB bumper is $750+

Oh, and I will have better pics up shortly for these. We are building a few off the prototype to set up jigs and will have them ready next week.

netwt12

would it be possible to build a front bumper to accomodate a 3" body lift for a truck across the country? my 88 has a 3" body lift that i'd love to get rid of but i'd have to redo the exo and redo the armour for the cases.

CashMoney

wow thats a really clean looking bumber

ScottyC

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Yes, just so happens my new 88' has a 3" body lift. I can use that for the template.

84RNR

Thanks for the info provided by PM. One last question, but thought others might be wondering the same so posting it. Any plans to offer a fully bolt on model that's still up to winching. I'm sure welding is the best, but I'd have to find a local shop to weld it and I also don't know if I want it to be that permanent.

ScottyC

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This is a bolt on model.

The issue lies in the stock mounting crossmember. Its only .90" steel(less than 1/8" thick and when you have an 8000lb winch pulling you, it will create a problem eventually. Its not an issue with the bumper at all needing to be welded on, just that I recommend reinforcing the stock crossmember because its too thin.

This is off of Front Range Offroad's site:


Look at how the threads are stripped and how thin the steel is. When winching, the winch will pull the bolts through the crossmember. Even with six bolts there.

ScottyC

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Okay, here is our new full production model. We finished it today and now have the templates laid out. These are ready to order, but we build them once ordered so they take about 2 weeks once ordered. We are trying to get some done so they are available immediately, but as soon as we build them, they sell.









This bumper will hold any winch that has your typical 10" x 4.5" mounting pattern. That includes most Warn, Milemarker, Superwinch, Ramsey, Tabor, Tmax, etc. Integrated Solenoid winch may require some minor trimming of the grill on some models.

LTrunner

i think i might order one of these with my free government money...will you fit one to a rig with a 1 inch body lift? also what do you do with the turn signals?

ScottyC

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No real need to have to with only a 1" BL to be honest. Our jig is setup for working with a 2" or 3" body lift though.

Scotty

Whitey13

So these bumpers don't utilize a TRAIL-GEAR winch mount?

84RNR

Looks great. I see what your saying about welding it on being pretty much necessary for winching due to the stock crossmember. In addition to the suggested welding, it looks like this bumper mounts using six bolts on the front. Is that correct? Are the 4 pipe ends (2 by the winch fairlead opening and 1 by each side running light) capped?

ScottyC

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Yes, they are capped.

ScottyC

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This is built off of Trail-Gear's winch plate for now. Why???

hmmwv15

how exactly would you re enforce the crossmember? I've got a push bumper that I think I can secure a winch plate to, but now that I'm hearing that I can't winch from a bolt on bumper, I'm curious as to how you would re enforce it.

ScottyC

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1/4" wall plate across the front welded on. I usually build my own, but Front Range Offroad also has a similar one. This is one of Front Range's welded on.