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I am planning on getting a warn m8000 to mount it on a TJM 15. I just realized I need a fairlead too. What kind of fairlead would you guys/gals recommend? Does Hawse make good fairlead? I found a deal for a warn m8000 + Hawse fairlead shipped for $570. Is that a good deal?? Thanks !!
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Originally Posted by ranma21
I am planning on getting a warn m8000 to mount it on a TJM 15. I just realized I need a fairlead too. What kind of fairlead would you guys/gals recommend? Does Hawse make good fairlead? I found a deal for a warn m8000 + Hawse fairlead shipped for $570. Is that a good deal?? Thanks !!
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Originally Posted by ranma21
So I can actually get a winch without any cable or fairlead???
I recently bought a 9.5ti and sold the fairlead already - I'll be selling the steel cable too since I got synth rope on a group buy prior to even buying my winch.
Hawse is not a brand, but a type of fairlead. There are two types of fairleads: Hawse and Roller. Roller has large rollers for the cable to run over - widely used for steel cable, not normally used for synth (especially after being used for steel cable - risk of burrs damaging synth). Hawse is not mechanical like the roller, but is more static - basically a guide for the rope to slide over.
Some Warn units come with a steel fairlead suitable for steel cable. Most guys with synth rope run an aluminum or UHMW (plastic) fairlead. These are both better than the steel Hawse fairlead for synth rope.
New Warn roller fairleads purchased separately from a retailer are around $115 each, while alum. or UHMW fairleads are less than a 1/3 of that.
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Originally Posted by Cebby
Hawse is not a brand, but a type of fairlead.
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Shane is planning to sell some of his syn rope so you might as well take advantage of that too. Just buy a new fairlead for the winch and then replace it.
Sell your old cable and fairlead on fleabay too!
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/need-new-synthetic-winch-line-38962/
Sell your old cable and fairlead on fleabay too!
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/need-new-synthetic-winch-line-38962/
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Seriously consider the UHMW fairlead with a synth rope. The aluminum will cut right through it if it gets even the tiniest scratch in it (and it will...)
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Seriously consider the UHMW fairlead with a synth rope. The aluminum will cut right through it if it gets even the tiniest scratch in it (and it will...)
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Originally Posted by ranma21
I am planning on getting a warn m8000 to mount it on a TJM 15. I just realized I need a fairlead too. What kind of fairlead would you guys/gals recommend? Does Hawse make good fairlead? I found a deal for a warn m8000 + Hawse fairlead shipped for $570. Is that a good deal?? Thanks !!
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This is news to me. Care to post some links where this occured? I have a hard time picturing an entire winch getting pulled through a hole a bit larger than a bannana...
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I purchased my UHMW Hawse Fairlead from Sky Manufacturing for only $25.
You might want to check them out. Good customer service as well.
You might want to check them out. Good customer service as well.
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Yeah, Sky's all right. I live right around the corner from his shop. He does some amazing welding over there!
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Originally Posted by Mad Chemist
This is news to me. Care to post some links where this occured? I have a hard time picturing an entire winch getting pulled through a hole a bit larger than a bannana...
TJM winch bumper breakdown
TJM Winch Frame
TJM cracked while winching
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Originally Posted by WileEToyote
Also, the TJM site says that the "winch kit" is not applicable for the 3rd gen 4Runner bumper.
From this (and other wanderings), I would say that the original T-100 version of the T15/T17 are _not_ winch rated, but that the 4Runner seems to be.
Note that the "new" page on the TJM site shows a _NEW_ T15/1T17 for the T-100 that clearly states it's winch rated.
I've written to TJM asking for clarification on the 3rd gen 4Runner bumpers and I'll post the response here.
Last edited by midiwall; 08-26-2004 at 09:40 AM.
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Here ya' go guys:
HUGE kudos to an almost immediate response from Ryan at TJM: (I'm pointing him to the forum/thread)
HUGE kudos to an almost immediate response from Ryan at TJM: (I'm pointing him to the forum/thread)
From: "TJM Products USA" <info@tjmbullbars.com>
To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mark@midiwall.com>
Subject: RE: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:52:44 -0400
G'day Mark,
Thank you for your interest in TJM. All of the 4 runner bars we offer are
rated for winch use up to 9000 lbs. Which forum did you see this on?
Kind Regards,
Ryan Parrish
TJM Products USA
www.tjmbullbars.com
ryan@tjmbullbars.com
Phone: (865) 670-1012
Fax: (865) 670-1993
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pulver [mailto:mark@midiwall.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:29 PM
To: info@tjmbullbars.com
Subject: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Hi there;
I've just come across some info on one of the web forums that seems to
indicate that the T17/T15 bumpers are _not_ winch rated.
Can you clarify this point in the scope of using this on a 3rd gen 4Runner?
Thank you!
Mark
To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mark@midiwall.com>
Subject: RE: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:52:44 -0400
G'day Mark,
Thank you for your interest in TJM. All of the 4 runner bars we offer are
rated for winch use up to 9000 lbs. Which forum did you see this on?
Kind Regards,
Ryan Parrish
TJM Products USA
www.tjmbullbars.com
ryan@tjmbullbars.com
Phone: (865) 670-1012
Fax: (865) 670-1993
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pulver [mailto:mark@midiwall.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:29 PM
To: info@tjmbullbars.com
Subject: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Hi there;
I've just come across some info on one of the web forums that seems to
indicate that the T17/T15 bumpers are _not_ winch rated.
Can you clarify this point in the scope of using this on a 3rd gen 4Runner?
Thank you!
Mark
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I just heard from Ryan again after pointing him to the thread. He had one more point of clarification, so I'm reposting it here:
From: "Ryan Parrish" <ryan@tjmbullbars.com>
To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mark@midiwall.com>
Subject: RE: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:46:32 -0400
No problem, that's what we are here for. I read through the thread, and
looks like links that were referenced regarding failure was a T100 bumper.
The T100 bumpers were not winch bars, you can see in the products
section of our website (www.tjmbullbars.com) that the T17 for the T100
states "N/A" under the winch rating meaning that it is not a winch capable
bumper. The T15's were non-winch bars as well when they were available.
I appreciate you taking the time to track down the correct information. Let
me know if there is anything else I can do for you.
Kind Regards,
Ryan Parrish
To: "'Mark Pulver'" <mark@midiwall.com>
Subject: RE: TJM and winches on a 96 4Runner
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:46:32 -0400
No problem, that's what we are here for. I read through the thread, and
looks like links that were referenced regarding failure was a T100 bumper.
The T100 bumpers were not winch bars, you can see in the products
section of our website (www.tjmbullbars.com) that the T17 for the T100
states "N/A" under the winch rating meaning that it is not a winch capable
bumper. The T15's were non-winch bars as well when they were available.
I appreciate you taking the time to track down the correct information. Let
me know if there is anything else I can do for you.
Kind Regards,
Ryan Parrish