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Old 09-17-2008, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
That looks good but i actually do want "reverse rake". So i need to find something less than 3 inches for the rear. And i might go with 305 mud terrains and land cruiser rims.
To get ~2" in the rear, you'll probably want an OME coil. The OME 906 is advertised to give 2" of lift and the OME 890 is supposed to give 2.5". A 2" rear lift should be enough to clear 305's, but I never liked the butt dragging look. Just my opinion. Good luck!
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with only 2in of lift in the rear and running 305's might cause some isues. depending on the backspacing of your rims (if you change them stock will work fine) since your tires are so wide they will hit the top of the fender at full compression. but as said before since this will probably only climb the piles of snow before buying a new pair of shoes, that set up will probably work.

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With 2" and 305's in the rear your going to rub if you flex much at all (maybe not around town though)
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I might just go with 285s then. What gas mileage have yall gotten with lift and tires?
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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
I might just go with 285s then. What gas mileage have yall gotten with lift and tires?
Even with 285's, you'll probably still rub at full compression. Most 305's and 285's are around the same diameter, with the biggest difference being the section (tread) width. Even with nearly 4" in the rear, I can almost get my 285's to touch and that's with stock shocks, which limit travel. If it were me, I'd want 3+" in the rear to be level with the front and to make the rig look decent. But, to each their own.

As far as gas mileage, I average ~17-19 in a mix of city and highway driving. I'm usually pretty easy on the skinny pedal. Remember that when you figure mileage with 285's, that they're about 10% bigger than stock 265/70's, so to get an accurate number, take 10% off the amount of gas you put in.

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i have 315's with about 6in of rear lift mixed between body and suspension lift and i can get them to rub... but i have no swaybars. lol it flexes like crazy with to swaybars and the longer lc springs.

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Originally Posted by 4Runner202020
i have 315's with about 6in of rear lift
*drools*

I'm considering a 2" bl, which will give me ~5.75 in the rear and 5" up front. 305's will be a big as I'll ever go though.
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Originally Posted by emptypockets
*drools*

I'm considering a 2" bl, which will give me ~5.75 in the rear and 5" up front. 305's will be a big as I'll ever go though.
ya i have the lc springs like you but the longer ones... i can get my sisters civic up to mid hood under my rear. lol its pretty sweet. haha and they ride amazing.
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With LC FZJ80 weels will i clear the UCA with 305s?
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I just looked up OME lifts and Toytec lifts and OME shocks and coils all around is cheaper than Toytec up front and OME in the back. So i guess im going with OME...

Nevermind, OME only gives 2-2.5 in the front..

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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
I just looked up OME lifts and Toytec lifts and OME shocks and coils all around is cheaper than Toytec up front and OME in the back. So i guess im going with OME...

Nevermind, OME only gives 2-2.5 in the front..
Which OME coils are you referring to that give 2-2.5" up front? It must be the 881's. I can tell you from personal experience that 882's do give a touch more than 3".
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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
Nevermind, OME only gives 2-2.5 in the front..
No it does not. Call ARB in Seattle. The phone number is Toll Free: (866) 293-9078. They will explain to you the correct way to use the products they make.

The front coils give 20mm of lift on a Prado and 1.25" lift on an American 4Runner if based on the 1999 stock height.
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Originally Posted by emptypockets
Which OME coils are you referring to that give 2-2.5" up front? It must be the 881's. I can tell you from personal experience that 882's do give a touch more than 3".
Based on the super low riding 2002 Model.
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
No it does not. Call ARB in Seattle. The phone number is Toll Free: (866) 293-9078. They will explain to you the correct way to use the products they make.

The front coils give 20mm of lift on a Prado and 1.25" lift on an American 4Runner if based on the 1999 stock height.
I have personally called them and ARB does recommend their products be used to carry additional weight, not necessarily to lift. But the fact is, their springs do lift...amounts vary by year. My research confirms your measurements Steve: 881's give 1.25" on 99's and about .75" more on the lower riding models (2002).

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Based on the super low riding 2002 Model.
That's true. In theory, the 882's would lift the taller 99's by about an .75-1" less, which holds true with what people are saying on the boards here.

I don't think there's much question about your systems being one of the best on the market for our rigs. People are raving about them and you've definitely done the research necessary to make them work well. There are other alternatives though and my OME 882/LC coil setup has worked very well for me so far. Just sayin'.
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Ok, the OME website says 2-2.5 lift http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html

So im going with the 822s in front and the OME coils in the back, with OME shocks up front and in the back. http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.php...emart&Itemid=2
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i have the OME 883's with the toytec topplate spacer and i have at least 3.5in of lift in the front with no cv problems and a good ride. and the longer lc coils in the rear and i love my overall ride height and the amount of stuff i can do that runners on 33's cant...

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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
Ok, the OME website says 2-2.5 lift http://www.rocky-road.com/4runner.html

So im going with the 822s in front and the OME coils in the back, with OME shocks up front and in the back. http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.php...emart&Itemid=2
I think you'll be happy with that setup. Good choice.
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So i should be sitting level or with a reverse rake.
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Originally Posted by heinmillerlax
So i should be sitting level or with a reverse rake.
With OME 882 front coils in front and basically any OME coil in the rear, you'll have some amount of reverse rake. To bring the back up to level with the front, you might want to think about a 1-1.5" spacer. Or just go with the LC coils and have the rear slightly higher than the front. I think my rig sits just about perfect.
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If it sits a little lower in the back than yours it will sit perfect. Thanks for all the help, ill update everyone when i get everything together.


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