MTL_4runner

Cool guys...I'm a 4X4 so I get the full treatment at the stealer!

If I get the OMEs later sounds like your telling me I need a diff drop to make sure I don't wear my CV boots out....true? The truck has been just awesome as far a wear and tear goes so I don't want my mods speeding up the process. If it was me driving it all the time then noooo prob...but my wife drives it as a commuter vehicle so I don't get to look at it as often as I would like to. I only steal it back on weekends.

ravencr

Thank bighead for the link.

So, snoozer, how about the 890's? What's your thought on them in comparison to the downey's and 891's?

Chris

MTL_4runner

What a friggin joke!!!

I talked to the stealer and they said that because the car was originally american but now in Canada that it needs to be driven back into the US to do the spring recall. I guess from what I understand that Toyota in Canada and Toyota in the US and 2 separate companies with databases that cannot be accessed by the others. Toyota deserves some serious for all that they put you through.

If I couldn't work on my own cars I doubt I would own one at this point ......great product.....horrible service......:wtf: guys get with the program.

Sorry.......just had to vent!!!

TDiddy

A diff drop is a good idea, yes. Its a quick install too. You just basically just support the diff, remove the two bolts, install the spacers and install the new bolts.

sschaefer3

With the rear bumper and tire carrier, it's barely 2.5", more like 2.25". Yep only 2" even up front.

With a stock rear bumper it would be around 4". You have to match your springs to your application. Not everyone will be the same.

snoozer

-Disclaimer- I haven't run any of these personally, I'm just regurgitating info from the forum. With that said, the 890's should give a stock 4x4 around 2.25 - 2.5" in the rear. 891's are stiffer than 890's. Not sure how 890's compare to downeys (which are softer than 891's). Steve has run both 891's and downeys. Maybe he can answer your question better.

ravencr

Thanks man!

keisur

I don't know if anybody has shown this to you yet, but here is a thing a the wire that compares a bunch of different scenarios. some of our fellow brethren have write-ups in there:

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/4Runner/tech/suspension/

NJ

Any one know what the difference in height gain is between the 890's and 891's. I have the 891's and find the ride a bit too hard for my bumpy roads. With load the ride is great, but unloaded the rear slams around a bit. I was thinking of changing, but only if the loss of height is not too significant.

Thnx,

ravencr

NJ,

What shocks are you running with the 891's? I'm also very interested in this same information, and from what I've seen and heard from Steve, I'm pretty sure it's 2.5-2.75" for the 890's and stock rear bumper if I'm remembering correctly.

Chris

keisur

about an inch.

keisur

nope. the 891's give this with the stock bumpers, at least that is what I get from them with my stock setup and 10mm trim packers with the lip of the coil isolator cone.

ravencr

That's weird, Steve says that he got 4" with the cornfed 1" spacer and the 891's with everything being stock. Keisur was your that height at first and then sagged?

Chris

keisur

That's right, 891's with a 1" spacer would yield about 4". without the spacer what do you think it would be? 2.75-3" of lift with the stock bumper. then they will settle about .25-.5 after a while. I never got 3" from the 891's alone. after the packers and no load I got right at 3". now if I added the 1" spacers, 1"+3"=4". I dint know you were including the spacers, I just gave you what most everyone else posts as their height gains from the 891's alone.

See what alot of other people got for lift from them here:

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/4Runner/tech/suspension/

ravencr

Yep, that was what I was getting at. Thanks Keisur! I've heard two different things on the Medium coils: 1 is that they are the same amount of lift, but the load carrying capacity is less, and 2 is that they are less of a lift and less load carrying capacity? So which is it?

Chris

Anyone know how to get a hold of OME?

keisur

I was told that the four options provide different height increases and load carrying:

889 - 1.5-2"
890 - 2-2.5"
891 - 2.5-3"
892 - 3"

or something to that effect, the numbers might not be exact but they should be close.

ravencr

Sweet! Now I'm going to step out on the stupid limb and pose this question. If the SAWS are so good at soaking up the bumps and overall ride quality, why don't we put them in the rear too with different valving and spring rates for the weight of the rear end in comparison to the front end? Especially since they are adjustable, we can get exactly what we wanted out of the lift, and the ride quality would be awesome, right?

Chris

keisur

one thing, the mounts are all wrong. it may fit the bottom, but the top wouldn't make it. plus I think the spring may hit a few things, just seems like they would, plus you would have hardly any flex. the SAWs only travel like 4-6 inches I think. the rear should flex like 9" I think, or at least mine does 9+.

ravencr

So being serious, what would the problem be?

Chris

keisur

one thing, the mounts are all wrong. it may fit the bottom, but the top wouldn't make it. plus I think the spring may hit a few things, just seems like they would, plus you would have hardly any flex. the SAWs only travel like 4-6 inches I think. the rear should flex like 9" I think, or at least mine does 9+.