MSD DIGITAL IGNITION 3rd Gen Anyone want to see pics? write up?
07-21-2006, 11:06 AM
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you are right, NO gains whatsoever can be had!!!
and actually, I just realized I have no clue about performance and toyotas and cars or trucks in general.....so why am I typing on here?
if I did have experience, had seen such gains on a dyno etc, I would have known not to be such a sillybee in saying that a late model all fancy computerized vehicle like a Toyota could gain an astoundingly whopping10 - 15 hp with an advanced iginiton system.
oh, here are a couple projects I have hacked together, I put the MSD boxes in for show
and actually, I just realized I have no clue about performance and toyotas and cars or trucks in general.....so why am I typing on here?
if I did have experience, had seen such gains on a dyno etc, I would have known not to be such a sillybee in saying that a late model all fancy computerized vehicle like a Toyota could gain an astoundingly whopping10 - 15 hp with an advanced iginiton system.
oh, here are a couple projects I have hacked together, I put the MSD boxes in for show
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07-21-2006, 11:29 AM
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the big block is in my dads 68 car should go in the nines
mine has a 302,,,that without the NOS makes 623hp.....but again what do I know hehe....if you think an MSD adding 10 - 15 HP to a Toyota is nuts, I dont know what to tell you about my 302!!
my car should go mid 10s due to the road race type suspension that it has, motor went 9.70s in a 3000 pound Nova...also you can see my friends blown 69 and other projects in the works on my site if you like www.sfaboston.com
mine has a 302,,,that without the NOS makes 623hp.....but again what do I know hehe....if you think an MSD adding 10 - 15 HP to a Toyota is nuts, I dont know what to tell you about my 302!!
my car should go mid 10s due to the road race type suspension that it has, motor went 9.70s in a 3000 pound Nova...also you can see my friends blown 69 and other projects in the works on my site if you like www.sfaboston.com
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07-21-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSTON4RUNNER
mine has a 302,,,that without the NOS makes 623hp.....but again what do I know hehe....if you think an MSD adding 10 - 15 HP to a Toyota is nuts, I dont know what to tell you about my 302!!
07-21-2006, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Apples and oranges. No one is questioning your expertise or ability to build a fast car, some of us are simply skeptical of a near 10% increase in power on an already efficient (ignition-wise) COC engine. By all means, prove us wrong!
MSD will definitely enhance power and performance in my truck I am sure
I will try to prove you wrong
I have to see if I can get it onto the dyno...
07-21-2006, 11:42 AM
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Could everyone please give him a chance to put it on the dyno? When was the last time someone put an MSD system from our trucks on the dyno? Maybe there have been improvements ?
Regardless of whether you get 0 or 20 Hp, I would like to see the results. I would like factual proof of whether it does or does not work, not just heresay.
Ok, now I'll ˟˟˟˟
Regardless of whether you get 0 or 20 Hp, I would like to see the results. I would like factual proof of whether it does or does not work, not just heresay.
Ok, now I'll ˟˟˟˟
07-21-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mastacox
I also remember when NX Tacoma first joined he was asking about the Nitrous, and despite warnings of destruction he put it in. Then, like two weeks later he got on again saying he was looking for a new engine because he blew his up :pat:
07-25-2006, 04:43 AM
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This is a pretty simple process, for the MSD Dis 4 going into a 4 Runner, you follow the wiring diagram for the tach adapter part number 8910.
The tach adapters, which for this application you need two of them, wire inline from where the harness leaves the MSD box en route to the coils.
The diagram I got from MSD is very clear and easy to read.
The tach adapters, which for this application you need two of them, wire inline from where the harness leaves the MSD box en route to the coils.
The diagram I got from MSD is very clear and easy to read.
07-25-2006, 04:50 AM
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I received a coil harness with plugs from a fellow YT'er,,for FREE!!!!!
These are the three connecting plugs that plug onto the coil...the MSD has to wire into these for one set of wires, so I will use this spare harness, so that the MSD will plug right onto the coils...
The plugs that originally plugged onto the coils, also need a few of the new MSD wires plugged into them as well...
This is what I am going to do....
For each plug that originally went onto the coils, I am going to cut and splice in an insulated female connector to each negative and positive lead. This way the new MSD wires can plug right in, using male ends...I will re install the original Toyota coil plugs as well, this way if the box ever fails all I have to do is unplug the male / female terminals and re install these original coil plugs onto the coils.....of course after I unplug the coil plugs which have been installed and part of this MSD harness I will have created.
Pictures will follow...I hope this is clear thus far
let me know questions.
These are the three connecting plugs that plug onto the coil...the MSD has to wire into these for one set of wires, so I will use this spare harness, so that the MSD will plug right onto the coils...
The plugs that originally plugged onto the coils, also need a few of the new MSD wires plugged into them as well...
This is what I am going to do....
For each plug that originally went onto the coils, I am going to cut and splice in an insulated female connector to each negative and positive lead. This way the new MSD wires can plug right in, using male ends...I will re install the original Toyota coil plugs as well, this way if the box ever fails all I have to do is unplug the male / female terminals and re install these original coil plugs onto the coils.....of course after I unplug the coil plugs which have been installed and part of this MSD harness I will have created.
Pictures will follow...I hope this is clear thus far
let me know questions.
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07-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by midiwall
b4r... what does the MSD promise as a deliverable? More spark energy? Longer duration? Ringing?
I run this and am fairly convinced it helps. VERY easy install and less expensive than the MSD.
I run this and am fairly convinced it helps. VERY easy install and less expensive than the MSD.
I hope to get my truck in on my friends dyno,,,before and after the install, but this is his busy season, so not sure what will transpire,,,I will post on my progress,,,
taking my time getting it ready, have alot of other projects going but wil finish this before my front bumper fab and winch mount gets going
07-25-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSTON4RUNNER
my claim should be 1-2 mpg and perhaps 10 - 15 hp,,,,alot of doubters here but I have experience with MSD that tells me otherwise
My curiosity is based around specifically what the system is doing to achieve those gains. Hotter spark, longer dwell, ???
07-26-2006, 04:33 AM
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Tim, I don't think anyone is writing off the MSD unit right as of yet, but it's human nature for people to be skeptical about how much benefit they will recieve from such an addition (so many products are out there, but so few deliver what's promised). I think I could speak for a vast majority of the curious on YT when I say I do look forward to dyno runs before and after if you can manage to sneak them in.
