Localmotion

i would go with just the hella 500s. if you want to spend more money, you should go with a higher wattage lamp, just my .02

lee

in the end that may just be what i do.

but for now im 'shopping' for a good deal on some 'cooler' lamps

Localmotion

right on...heres a link to a pair

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...part=HLA-75803

EDIT: it says they are sold individually...DOH!

lee

yea, believe you me ive found 100 sites listing these things in all sorts of ways

single, pair, triples (?!), w/out wire harnesses, no box, open box, missing stuff, etc etc etc.

bamachem

for FOGS, i'd look at something to put in the valence and NOT on the top lip of the bumper or brush guard - although it will work, but just not as well for fog. for best results, they need to be as low as possible. something in the 55W range like the IPF 924's or Hella 500's or smaller if you can find them.

for DRIVING LIGHTS in the 55W class, you can't beat the Hella 500's - no matter how much you spend. the Hella ff1000's are really nice and match the headlights better and are only $95 + shipping on ebay.

for 100W class, the Hella 4000's are a good choice along with the Lightforce 170's.

for 130W class, there's only ONE, and that's IPF!


Hella 500:


Hella ff1000:



Lightforce 170:



IPF 900:


throw a pair of 55W fogs and a pair of 130W driving lights on w/ High Beams and it's
BRIGHT
to say the least

on long deserted stretches, i can make out OBJECTS at over 3/4 MILE AWAY...
(think aircraft-landing-lights-kind-of-bright... )

FilthyRich

IPF also makes a spot/ fog lamp. It is two lights in one.
http://www.4by4connection.com/j01drivfogco.html

lee

yea id love some ipfs but... i also like to spend 300 bucks on other things!

good points andy, all you listed are great lights.

for now im gonna go with a 500 or similar... that more than meets my needs.

FilthyRich

Then 500s are for you.

PM ASUrunner, I think he has some 100w IPFs for sale that are similar in size and construction to the 500s

Localmotion

I believe he has these http://www.arbusa.com/ipf_usa_968_868.htm

bamachem

968's are sweet lights. however, they are 55W (NOT 100W) and are competetors to the Hella ff1000's that are priced in the same range. they are definitely a "step up" in price range above the Hella 500's.


they're also driving lights and NOT fog lights. BIG difference in beam pattern.

lee

driving lights are legal to turn on on the road, correct?

bamachem

i doubt it in MA. prob just Fogs. typically, driving lights are considered off-road lights.

i still use mine. i have them wired in w/ the high beams and an isolation switch. switch = on, they still only come on w/ the high beams. flip the high's off, and the driving lights go off. the fogs are wired in to the factory fog harness w/ the jumper so they will work w/ just the parking/running lights. that way, i can run:

just fogs
just lows
lows + fogs
highs + fogs
highs + 900s
highs + fogs + 900's

all that from the factory stick controls w/ 1 simple isolation switch that's an OEM and in the OEM location for the rear locker (for the 900's - the fogs are on the OEM fog switch on the stick) .

lee

check. i meant the reverse.. that fogs are legal on, driving are legal off...

must be the lack of coffee + a monday.

bamachem

again,