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Old 03-02-2005, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironmike4x4
you can do the same with water but it's not recommended.
Maybe water mixed with anti-freeze. I can just picture a big chunk of ice bouncing around in there.
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Old 03-02-2005, 08:12 AM
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Maybe water mixed with anti-freeze. I can just picture a big chunk of ice bouncing around in there.
Wooops! I live in the south so we don't worry much about ice, you caught me on that though lol. I was just thinking from my steering and suspension instructor's experiences with tires and thought it would be good to share it although I wouldnt recommend it to you guys in sub zero temps.
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Old 03-02-2005, 08:32 AM
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Has anyone here tried lead shot or BBs?
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I run Golf balls in my TSL's, works great. Not perfect, but its smooth till 70 mph. Next set of tires i get will be ballanced with BB's, they spread the weight better than the golf balls.
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Old 03-02-2005, 08:41 AM
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I'm thinking the lead shot would work better because it is less bouncy and softer. Smaller the better like #8 or so.
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Maybe you could find some lead shot small enough to get through the valve stem. It sure is nice being able to put the stuff in without breaking the bead on the tire. Sand would work too as long as you aired up with CO2 or argon or some other dry gas.
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Old 03-02-2005, 09:33 AM
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why would you need co2 or something else with sand? I'm not picking this up as to why you'd need it... a quick explanation would help.
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Water or moisture in the tire could cause the sand to clump together. I don't know it may not be a problem once the tire gets warmed up. They say that the Equal being a polymer won't clump up if it gets wet. I'm airing up with CO2 just in case.

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Originally Posted by Rick F.
Using "Equal" to balance tires... SWEET!!!
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If using sand or some other powder that becomes clumpy with moisture, could you not just add some dessicant beads in there with it? Should be readily available in science catalogs or packs of beef jerky, then you don't have to worry about using inert gases or any of that stuff. I guess it would just depend on how much you air up/down your tires.

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I have some 34" LTB's and wonder if I should give this a try. My truck is so light in the rear I can feel them. They have been balanced twice and are fine but I think this may make them better. Keep up the good info. I was looking at the center.....something, thingy with the steel balls in it but I like this better.
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I test drove mine and everything seems very smooth. It wasn't really very out of balance before though, just a slight shake in the wheel. The real test would come if I was to throw off a weight. I thought about purposely adding some weight on the rim just to get it way out of balance and test it.
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Originally Posted by GRNTACO
I have some 34" LTB's and wonder if I should give this a try. My truck is so light in the rear I can feel them. They have been balanced twice and are fine but I think this may make them better. Keep up the good info. I was looking at the center.....something, thingy with the steel balls in it but I like this better.
If mine were okay to start with, I wouldn't mess them. Too much effort balancing tires on these trucks seems to be more trouble than it worth. I've adopted a 'good enough is fine' attitude at this point.
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Re: Sand in tire. At low speeds, whatever you put in the tire is gonna slide around in the tire until the tire is rotating fast enough to force it out against the rim. Doesn't seem like the best redneck engineering idea I've ever heard. You've heard of sandpaper and vibratory tumblers. Not exactly what I want in my tires for 40K miles.

Re: Lead shot. Poisonous. And you're gonna expose yourself and some unsuspecting tire guy to lead dust when you open it back up.

I do like the sound of "Equal" though. Non-toxic put it in and forget about it. Seem to have a balance problem on the '99 with it's 265's.
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Well after driving about 170 miles yesterday with the Equal in, I'm not as happy with it now. There seems to be some speeds and conditions (like 40-50 mph on bumpy roads) where it actually seems to make the wheels shimmy more. Maybe at those lower speeds and hitting bumps it doesn't get moved back into position quick enough? The stuff is mainly sold to long-haul truckers around here, and they would be mostly concerned with freeway speeds.

I agree the sand was a bad idea, but I'm not convinced of the danger of the lead shot. I've spend years and years (USPSA competition) reloading and flinging the stuff down-range at the rate of 10,000-15,000 rounds a year and no lead poisoning yet. Just have to wash your hands good after handling lead. It is so heavy I just can't see it being an inhalation problem unless it is vaporized. But I could be wrong; it wouldn't be the first time.
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
I'm thinking the lead shot would work better because it is less bouncy and softer. Smaller the better like #8 or so.
No dont use my favorite shot size to use on the sporting clays course, use something completely useless like 9 shot. (Poking fun at skeet shooters and it's smaller in diameter than 8s.) 25lb bags of #9 shot can be found at your local gun club and it usually sells for around 18-20 bux a bag. Opt for chilled as you wont need the harder, 5% antimony, magnum shot.





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