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Old 01-30-2004, 06:33 AM
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Re: 3rd Gen rolling on 315/75/16: 2" Suspension lift, 1" Body lift

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Check it out.

http://fastq.com/~sschaefer/thirtyfive.html



Solid Axle this, Solid Axle that, Bla Bla Bla Bla. I own a genuine Toyota built Solid Axle truck as well. So what.



This is all about IFS. 35's and the fact that minor lift and a little triming will clear them.

I'm glad someone else did this first I was getting ready to put some 35's on my 4runner but I wasn't sure they would fit. I hope 4:88's are enough.
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Originally posted by jacksonpt
I was looking at your site, and I saw these pics:





From these pics, it does not appear that I would gain much room to clear the 33s by simply going with the ATS arms. I read through your writeup on the ATS arms, and some of it was over my head, mechanically, so maybe I'm just missing something.
The arms in those pictures are the original ones that were for the Tacoma and were 3/16 over stock. The production arms were only 1/16 over stock. So you can not really use those photos for this comparison.

What you need to look at is the distance from the center of the ball joint bolt hole to the ouside of the arm that would come in contact with the tire.
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You mean BEER BOTTLE opener?
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Welcome back Steve, thanks for raising the bar...again!
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Originally posted by sschaefer3
The arms in those pictures are the original ones that were for the Tacoma and were 3/16 over stock. The production arms were only 1/16 over stock. So you can not really use those photos for this comparison.

What you need to look at is the distance from the center of the ball joint bolt hole to the ouside of the arm that would come in contact with the tire.
Ah, ok... now it's making sense. Thanks man... the help is much appreciated. Seems like this is definitely a better option for me to clear the 33s (rather than the wheels with 3.75 backspacing). I'll also add a 1" BL to help with the rubbing in the back. May have to do some trimming, but I'm not worried about that - the a-arms were my concern.
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Yeah Jackson, those ATS arms help a great deal. I was rubbing my factory ones real bad with 285's then I changed over to the ATS arms and I have plenty of room now. I think I might eventually go to at least a 305/70, but I will have to save up for the money for new rims.

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hmmmm....

Damn rock crawlers!

When are you going to be ditching all of that shiiiiat and load up on a long travel IFS? Rocks are for buggies and trucks you don't care about bashing, brother!

Nice work my friend. Maybe it's time I revisited your site again to get updated on your latest tech. Should soon be warning you when I'll be visiting the land of the sun again.

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Any guestimate as to how much clearance you gained?
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Nice work Steve. 35s are a must have. I still drag my diff on the better trails I run. So do they not make this size in a real tire?

I am curious how well your diffs will like the change over. Keep me posted if you experience any failure.
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Originally posted by 44Runner
Nice work Steve. 35s are a must have. I still drag my diff on the better trails I run. So do they not make this size in a real tire?

I am curious how well your diffs will like the change over. Keep me posted if you experience any failure.
You can get MT/R's in 315/75/16 but they were like $200 each though my Discount Tire connection.

The Yoko's were only $150. That's really all I wanted to spend on a tire that will get chewed up and wear out anyway.
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Retail Discount Tire prices for the size 315/75/16:

Goodyear MT/R: $265.00 each

BFG Mud Terrain: $214.00

I needed 5 tires plus mount and balance and trail hazzard warranty. The other good thing about the Yokohama's is that they only have a 2 ply side wall. Should be pretty easy to cut that on a rock.



Then you get a new tire if that should happen. I was only able to take out 1 MT/R the entire time I had them, those suckers are too tough.
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trail hazzard warranty
I didn't realize that was available, Is that at Discount Tire?
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Originally posted by Albuquerque Jim
I didn't realize that was available, Is that at Discount Tire?
The offically call it a "road hazzard" warranty. But does not matter where the tire has it's hazzard.
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As I said before, I will be interested to see how the tire situation works, but if you can get them replaced quickly, then it is no big deal.

The list on 315 MT/R's is pretty obscene. On a 15" rim you can get 37's for less than that.

All this time I thought that a person needed 3 inches of lift just for 285's, who knew?
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Sweet. That shouuld give you more of what you need.

What is your clearance at right now?

That set up is awesome!

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Steve, in your expert opinion, would 2" of suspension lift and a 2" body lift change the "trimming" requirements for 315's?
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Originally posted by sschaefer3
Oh Yeah:

quote:
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Originally posted by RTDawgs on Pirate 4X4 12-30-2003
no way you fit 35s, prove it.
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quote:
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Originally posted by RTDawgs on Pirate 4X4 12-31-2003
i know thats a 35, but im not going to believe you until i see a pic.
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¿puede usted ahora ver?
si papa.

I REALLY like how you trimmed the TJM, that looks sharp.

Im not crazy about the tires though, looks more like a mallrat with those street slicks, but ill take your word that they can walk up the rocks. (dont dare bring those out to my territory)

also seems like you had to dish out a lot cash to make everything right. i.e. steering/oil coolers and the spare tire rack.

however, the most kickass thing is byfar the spare tire mount. i have been craving one of those ever since i got my body lift. can you tell me how much you paid for it? (pm if you wish)

were your MTRs worn out, how many miles did you get out of them?

are you getting the same amount of suspension travel with those heavy/big tires? do they stuff all the way into the fenders?

no way will 35s ever successfully stuff into a 4Runner with LTD flares with this little lift.
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Nice job Steve! Welcome to the wonderful world of AT's. I've been hanging with all the trucks with mud tires with no trouble at all on the rocks, as I'm sure you'll soon find too. I just wish the Dueler AT's came in a bigger size, so it looks like you picked a good one for the money.

I wonder how this setup would work on my limited with roughly the same exact lift?

Chris
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I want 35's. After seeing that I should already have enough lift I just don have the money for gear's and extra gas money.
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Originally posted by Albuquerque Jim
Steve, in your expert opinion, would 2" of suspension lift and a 2" body lift change the "trimming" requirements for 315's?
Depends if you have flares. A 2" BL would be alot more work than a 1" BL which is really easy. 2" or 3" are a beast.


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