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Old 12-12-2008, 10:08 AM
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Okay, so I want to re-gear to 4.88's. I have stock gears on 31's and eventually will get 33's. First, is it a bad idea to run 4.88's on 31's?

For re-gearing, I think these are my options:

1) Find one at the junk yard. V6, Automatic, with 31' tires stock. How much do third members run at junk yards?

2) Buy Ring and Pinon and have a pro install it into my third member. Is there anything else I'd need besides the ring and pinon? I see seals and bearings and stuff as well on Marlin Crawler. How much does a pro usually cost? And how long do you think the downtime would be?

3) Do it myself. I hear that's difficult.

Am I correct with all of this and do I have any other options?

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4.88's and 31's is gonna be geary but if your going 33's do it. if your 4wd you gotta get the front and rear diffs.

1. couple hundred bucks a pop

2. usually 200 bucks for each r&p then install kits range from 100-150, plus install.... So your looking at roughly 200x2 + 100x2 + 150(labor)= 750ish

that labor for 150 is very cheap compared to everywhere else in the country. At my gear shop if i call ahead they can get my diff done in a day max two. Labor is cheaper if you pull your thirds yourself, which is pretty easy.

3. too hard to do if you have no mechanical experience, I wanna learn how to do it one day.
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also check into buying gears ready to run. its a little more up front but you'll then have a spare 3rd to sell or use elsewhere. look at http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-diffs.html


i bought both my 3rd from TG ready to run...

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Originally Posted by Tofer
also check into buying gears ready to run. its a little more up front but you'll then have a spare 3rd to sell or use elsewhere. look at http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-diffs.html


i bought both my 3rd from TG ready to run...
can he buy an open from there?
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Thanks for the input guys!

I have a 2wd, so I'm only looking at one diff. And, I do plan on taking out the third myself. Save some moneyyyy!

Tofer, do they happen to have 3rd members without lockers? I can't seem to find 'em. Or do you know of any other places that do? That'd be great, since finding one at a junk yard doesn't seem to hopeful.

Any other options?


Edit: Ah, Jason beat me to it.

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Old 12-12-2008, 11:09 AM
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Oh yeah, about 4.88's and 31's. Will it 'cause any damage though? Thanks
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Sure you have the 8" diff (same as 4WD) and not the 7.5" diff normally used in 2WD's?
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Yeah, I'm assuming I have the 7.5" diff.

Does this cause complications?
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Originally Posted by Yotas&Jellos
Oh yeah, about 4.88's and 31's. Will it 'cause any damage though? Thanks
Damage to what, exactly?

I ran 4.88's and 28.5" tires for about a year. It was great. Lots of get up and go. Higher RPMs on the highway, but nothing too bad. 75 was about 4-42K on the tach.
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Yep - the factory 4.88's and all the aftermarket thirds listed above are 8" and won't fit your housing.
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Originally Posted by AxleIke
Damage to what, exactly?

I ran 4.88's and 28.5" tires for about a year. It was great. Lots of get up and go. Higher RPMs on the highway, but nothing too bad. 75 was about 4-42K on the tach.
I heard somewhere that you can snap the rear axels? Or something like that... But I was just kind of unsure if it would 'cause anything major with lower gears and smaller tires. Guess not!
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Yep - the factory 4.88's and all the aftermarket thirds listed above are 8" and won't fit your housing.


That sucks.... I didn't realize this.

What can I do to re-gear then?
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See post #2, answer #2
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Oh, so there are 7.5" ring and pinons? I thought you meant all those were 8" as well.

Maybe I'll send it to Zuk!



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