mightymouse

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Me3h i would leave the torsion bars alone for now. If you find you need them go to a junkyard and find some bars out of a v6 runner. As far as i know they are a little stiffer than the ones installed on the re models due to the fact that the engine is heavier. You can crank that amount out of your original bars if you wanted to but don't crank them up too far or your ride will be stiff and your truck will be difficult to allign. Trust me been there done that. If you plan on getting the bj spacers to add a little lift and gain some flex make sure you get new adjustment hard ware for the torsion bars from the dealer. Believe me you'll be happy you did. When adjusting you torsion bars for lift go ahead and start soaking them now with a penetrating lubricant for a few weeks prior to adjusting them since they sieze up sometimes.

sixstring

That makes things a lot cheaper. Thank you so much for your advice. I'll be getting a idler arm spacer too. Are brass bushings worth it as well? Sorry for all the questions, but If I need other parts should I snag them off a v6 runner?

mightymouse

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The only parts that i know of that swap for benefit are the torsion bars off of the v6. Yes get the brass bushings they'll be stronger. By the way it's probably a miss type but it's not a spacer it's a brace. might help you when you're looking for it. If you go to a junkyard look for newer parts like tie rods and the adjustment sleeves. That's how i found mine so i have an extra new set in the box for when these break or wear out. I'm at the local junkyards every other weak scavenging parts for spares or fixes. Al;so look up budbuilt.com for some other upgrades for armor. They make good stuff for when you wanna beat your truck up. Sonoran steel makes a good brace for the ifs as well so check them out. It's been said before but i'll say it again lockers, gears, and armor will take you alot further than big tires and tall suspension.

sixstring

I figured I was going to end up on 33's anyway and the front end needs work to be drivable so thought I would knock that out of the way now. Ya lockers (probably just rear e-locker) and gears are next, then armor. Needs serious body work, but that can wait. I might end up keeping the 31's for now though, don't really need 33s. I have 3 sets of 31's sitting around anyway. Either way the front end needs fixed and I can relax the torsion bars to keep it stock height.

bone collector

is the v6 torsion bar really stiffer then the 4 banger?? ive never seen any info to suggest they were different. is it as easy as changing the bars or is there more to change then that?

Lumpy

I think the 4Runner bars would be thicker than the pickup...It's got a bunch more weight moving about.

Jay351

Pretty sure the v6 trucks and 4runner have slightly stiffer torsion bars, but im not that sure.

You shouldnt need stiffer bars unless you got a heavy winch bumper and a winch.

bone collector

so why would i buy an aftermarket set of T-bars?? why not buy a set of v6 bars from a junkyard?? Are the bars for sure thicker and stiffer or is this just a hopeful shot in the dark?? anyone know for certain?

sixstring

would heavier bars make the front end higher at a relaxed setting giving a smother ride/better articulation than fairly tight 4 banger bars (assuming v6 bars are thicker/stronger)? I want a little extra height, but not a stiff ride or the loss of a little articulation.

sixstring

I wont have either.

Good point, it sounds logical but hopeful someone will chime in one that one.

Jay351

Do some research and try to find out if the 4cyl and v6 torsion bars are different diameter. I couldn't tell you..


No. Thicker torsion bars will have the same effect as stiffer springs. They will require more weight to move throughout the travel range, so if you don't plan on a winch + bumper or a v8 then don't bother.

What you want is ball joint spacers, leave the torsion bars at their factory setting, adjusting them won't gain you anything but a rougher ride.

Then get yourself some nice shocks.

mightymouse

iTrader: (6)

Yes i can vouch the v6 4runner bars are bigger but not by much. I asked my l;ocal toyota guru about installing a winch on my truck and asked about after market torsion bars. He said and i can verify that indeed the v6 bars are bigger to compensate for the heavier engine. When i get a winch i'll pick a set of v6 torsion bars along with it. They'll only really benefit you if you're running a heavier bumper and wich. Other wise they're over kill and will cause you to have a stiffer ride.

bone collector

wow i need to find a mid 90s v6 parts vehicle with auto and trd. 4.88s lockers t-bars calipers. hmmm .....

As to the ifs upgrade.. jay 351 has it right. check out 4crawlers website. lots of good stuff on there for cheap. Lots cheaper then a SAS

sixstring

Will the bj spacers lift it any with relaxed torsion bars?


I'll checkout 4crawlers. Thanks

mightymouse

iTrader: (6)

yes. and you can further adjust the bars for the height you want.

Lumpy

I'd rather have BJ spacers and T-bars relaxed. Smoother ride and more flex.

AZkid

i agree, he suggested it to me and i tried it, sure enough, works awesome. its nice actually having some flex with my IFS.

sixstring

IDo only the sr5's have 4.88 and elockers?

sixstring

Found a front diff with 4.88 gears in it for $200. Hopefully its still there when I get paid. Sounds like a good deal. Might as well while I'm in there...gotta find a rear diff though...

Jay351

1992-95 pickups and 4runners with a 3vze, auto and factory 31" tires came with 4.88 gears. No lockers tho.

e-lockers came as an option on the 1995.5+ and 1996+ 4runners.

Im currently rebuilding my whole IFS. Adding brass idler arm bushings, all new componants and im finally getting around to installing my soneran steel IFS brace.