SAS and lift on a 86 4runner...

Jared Ajlouny · 01-17-2005, 08:27 PM

i just bought a 86 4runner for offroading, i already herculined the interior and i want to SAS it. marlin sels a kit but its 1300 bucks for the front and the kit to lift the back is arouind 700....anyone know anyother ways to get 5 inchs out of the rear that isnt 700 bucks? and is marlins SAS kit the best to go with even though it is expensive?

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SEAN_at_TLT · 01-17-2005, 09:01 PM

Jared, I just found an EFI '85 down the street from me that I was going to tell you about :pat:

SEAN_at_TLT · 01-17-2005, 09:07 PM

Well, for your '86 You can go to some longer leafs and relocate the front perches farther forward and that will give you a little lift, combine that with some longer shackles and a Deaver triple-pack and I bet you can get 5" out of it.

The Deaver triple-pack is $185 and the rest is either cheap or free. On our '89 we relocated the stock perches 5" forward (free) installed the Deaver triple-pack on a set of stock Tacoma leafs (free) since we already had them and they are about 10" longer than the stock 1st gen runner leafs. You can make some shackles pretty easy (free) or buy some. There are plenty of cheap options to lift the rear.

M threezy · 01-17-2005, 09:28 PM

wheres the 85? how much? =)

Jared Ajlouny · 01-17-2005, 10:13 PM

hey sean thanks for the response...u didnt have to reply here and pirate..thanks anyways tho! ive been learning how to weld...the guy said i am pretty good at it fot my first time!! i just need to buy a welder now...hows that buggy going? let me know if u need an extra hang on it! thanks! oh yea how much is the 85?

SEAN_at_TLT · 01-18-2005, 12:04 PM

Well the guy with the '85 said he might be looking to sell it, not sure. He has it in his yard and it needs some work but is not too bad, He said it ran recently but doesn't now, might just need a battery charge? I didn't talk pricing w/him since it was just a maybe but I gave him a card and he said he'll call me if he decides to let it go.

Then after we left I remembered that you were looking for one and I thought about going back over to his house and talking to him more but then you posted saying you bought one already.

The truggy is going good, I haven't done a lot other than stripping it down to only what we'll be reusing but that's because I've been busy working on the '89 and some other projects. We started taking measurements for the cage on the truggy though and we have sketched some ideas that look really sweet. For the most part though that project is on the back burner for about another month until we wrap up the '89 completely and then we'll focus on it. at that point progress should come quick.

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 02:17 PM

did u get the 3.4 in the 89 yet?? thats gunna be a nice runner!

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 05:11 PM

SAS and a lift ain't going to be cheap if done right IMO. Marlin makes good stuff and worth it...why do something half

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 05:17 PM

what size lift are you running and what leafs?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 05:27 PM

All Pro 5" Extreme Lift Kit...but it ain't cheap. If Marlin had had a kit when I bought mine I would have gotten his...it came out 2 weeks later.

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 06:02 PM

the allpro is less than the marlin....isnt it? i cant wait to get this thing SASed and lifted than i can start wheeling it....

did u ever find that FSM?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Ajlouny

the allpro is less than the marlin....isnt it? i cant wait to get this thing SASed and lifted than i can start wheeling it....

did u ever find that FSM?

They are about the same actually. And if you have never welded anything before, you'd better get a SKILLED

who knows something about 4x4s to help you put on the stuff for sure. Even with GREAT help a lot of the stuff is a PITA, but worth it now.

Good luck!

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 06:32 PM

are you running 35s or 37s?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Ajlouny

are you running 35s or 37s?

35s....for NOW...

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 07:01 PM

you plan to put 37s with toyota axles?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 07:07 PM

I don't have OEM inner axles

chromoly dude

SEAN_at_TLT · 01-18-2005, 07:18 PM

Jared, yes the 3.4L has been in and running for a few months now, WOW what a difference

SEAN_at_TLT · 01-18-2005, 07:19 PM

Brian, "Inner-axles" are typically referred to as "axle-shafts"....

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 07:20 PM

ahhh i see! how much do those beasts set u back?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEAN_at_TLT

Brian, "Inner-axles" are typically referred to as "axle-shafts"....

Yes mother.

I have chromoly front AXLE SHAFTS w/ Longfields.

Is that better dear?

**waskillywabbit** · 01-18-2005, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Ajlouny

ahhh i see! how much do those beasts set u back?

$385 for all 4 pieces, the axle shafts and longfields.

Jared Ajlouny · 01-18-2005, 08:03 PM

haha...sean if that guy is gunna sellt he 85 for cheap i might buy it.....

SEAN_at_TLT · 01-20-2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Yes mother.

I have chromoly front AXLE SHAFTS w/ Longfields.

Is that better dear?

Jared Ajlouny · 02-27-2005, 06:57 PM

The solid axle swap is on its way!!! i got the axle last monday and ive been taking stuff off it and grinding it up and cleaning it...heres some before and afters....

after

i havent been cutting off the ifs yet because i need to get the hangers welded up, marlin is taking a LONG time to get it all ready, hopefully it will be done saturday so i cant get them and start ripping the ifs out with a SAWZALL AND ANGLEGRINDER (

) since i can only get about 300 bucks a month to spend on this i think im going to get tires and wheels next (after i get the driveshafts all set up) and then lock and gear it...

**waskillywabbit** · 02-27-2005, 07:12 PM

Nice!

Keep us posted...

01-17-2005, 09:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	Jared, I just found an EFI '85 down the street from me that I was going to tell you about :pat: __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled Last edited by SEAN_at_TLT; 01-17-2005 at 09:03 PM.

01-17-2005, 09:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	Well, for your '86 You can go to some longer leafs and relocate the front perches farther forward and that will give you a little lift, combine that with some longer shackles and a Deaver triple-pack and I bet you can get 5" out of it. The Deaver triple-pack is $185 and the rest is either cheap or free. On our '89 we relocated the stock perches 5" forward (free) installed the Deaver triple-pack on a set of stock Tacoma leafs (free) since we already had them and they are about 10" longer than the stock 1st gen runner leafs. You can make some shackles pretty easy (free) or buy some. There are plenty of cheap options to lift the rear. __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled

01-17-2005, 10:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	hey sean thanks for the response...u didnt have to reply here and pirate..thanks anyways tho! ive been learning how to weld...the guy said i am pretty good at it fot my first time!! i just need to buy a welder now...hows that buggy going? let me know if u need an extra hang on it! thanks! oh yea how much is the 85? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 12:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	Well the guy with the '85 said he might be looking to sell it, not sure. He has it in his yard and it needs some work but is not too bad, He said it ran recently but doesn't now, might just need a battery charge? I didn't talk pricing w/him since it was just a maybe but I gave him a card and he said he'll call me if he decides to let it go. Then after we left I remembered that you were looking for one and I thought about going back over to his house and talking to him more but then you posted saying you bought one already. The truggy is going good, I haven't done a lot other than stripping it down to only what we'll be reusing but that's because I've been busy working on the '89 and some other projects. We started taking measurements for the cage on the truggy though and we have sketched some ideas that look really sweet. For the most part though that project is on the back burner for about another month until we wrap up the '89 completely and then we'll focus on it. at that point progress should come quick. __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled

01-18-2005, 02:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	did u get the 3.4 in the 89 yet?? thats gunna be a nice runner! __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-17-2005, 09:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
M threezy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 231	wheres the 85? how much? =)

01-18-2005, 05:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	SAS and a lift ain't going to be cheap if done right IMO. Marlin makes good stuff and worth it...why do something half __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

01-18-2005, 05:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	what size lift are you running and what leafs? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 05:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	All Pro 5" Extreme Lift Kit...but it ain't cheap. If Marlin had had a kit when I bought mine I would have gotten his...it came out 2 weeks later. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

01-18-2005, 06:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	the allpro is less than the marlin....isnt it? i cant wait to get this thing SASed and lifted than i can start wheeling it.... did u ever find that FSM? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 06:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	are you running 35s or 37s? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 07:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	you plan to put 37s with toyota axles? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 07:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	I don't have OEM inner axles chromoly dude __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

01-18-2005, 07:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	Jared, yes the 3.4L has been in and running for a few months now, WOW what a difference __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled

01-18-2005, 07:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
SEAN_at_TLT Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 752	Brian, "Inner-axles" are typically referred to as "axle-shafts".... __________________ -Sean Trails Less Traveled

01-18-2005, 07:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	ahhh i see! how much do those beasts set u back? __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

01-18-2005, 08:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	haha...sean if that guy is gunna sellt he 85 for cheap i might buy it..... __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

02-27-2005, 06:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	The solid axle swap is on its way!!! i got the axle last monday and ive been taking stuff off it and grinding it up and cleaning it...heres some before and afters.... after i havent been cutting off the ifs yet because i need to get the hangers welded up, marlin is taking a LONG time to get it all ready, hopefully it will be done saturday so i cant get them and start ripping the ifs out with a SAWZALL AND ANGLEGRINDER ( ) since i can only get about 300 bucks a month to spend on this i think im going to get tires and wheels next (after i get the driveshafts all set up) and then lock and gear it... __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll! Last edited by Jared Ajlouny; 02-27-2005 at 07:00 PM.

02-27-2005, 07:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	Nice! Keep us posted... __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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