Front tube bumper with multi mount winch

Robinhood150 · 06-11-2006, 10:24 PM

Ever since one particular snow run with my friend, I've wanted a multi mount winch. However, I knew the drawbacks too...I didn't want it sticking out too far. So I came up with a way to tuck the winch in as close as a normal winch bumper but yet still able to move it to the rear hitch. By the way, this is the first time any of us bent any tube. The bends came out surprisingly well.

I hot hitch material (sort of) and welded it to the winch mounting plate then fabbed a cradle to wrap around the mount. The winch mount sits in the cradle with 2 hitch pins securing it to the rest of the truck.

The winch slips in from the top.

Here's the finished product

To move it to the back I use 2x2 tube and slide it into the winch bracket.

And then just plug it into the hitch receiver in the rear.

I still need to get the wire and wire it all up.

Here are more pictures of the build up: http://www.robinhood4x4.com/gallery2/Front%20bumper/
This is best viewed with IE so you can see the thumbnails.

And yes, the tranny cooler will be moved.

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ChickenLover · 06-11-2006, 10:29 PM

That is freakin' awesome! Nice work.

Bob_98SR5 · 06-11-2006, 11:59 PM

NICE, steve! can't wait to see it in person

rdharper · 06-12-2006, 02:05 AM

Very cool. I believe I see two different winch types. You could tie them together underneath the truck and give yourself a wedgie!

Up too early here, so my sense of humor may be a bit warped. And besides, I sometimes seriously miss the winch on my '67 landcruiser.

Nice job.

bruzer1123 · 06-12-2006, 03:07 AM

Nice job! I really dig the design

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 03:55 AM

Wow, that came out really nice. That is the best idea for a multimount winch that I have ever seen.

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 03:58 AM

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

Old dirty IFS:

Shiny new SFA:

waskillywabbit · 06-12-2006, 04:09 AM

Looks very nice. Creative design.

My first thought is theft. If it is that easy to take off, it might walk off (the winch).

Second, I only counted (6) bolt holes holding the front bumper on and it looked like there would be (2) in tension and (4) in shear when exectuing a pull? Hard to tell what the (4) in tension are secured to?

The IFS to SA swap in the pictures (mentioned above)...

Robinhood150 · 06-12-2006, 09:01 AM

Thanks everyone.

Quote:

I believe I see two different winch types.

No that's the same winch, only 1.

Quote:

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

I don't know what you're talking about, it looks the same to me...

When I started the bumper, I wasn't planning on doing the SAS.

Brian, I've thought of the theft thing too. I'm going to see if anybody makes a lockable hitch pin that is long enough to clear everything. If not, then I'll figure something out.

There are a total of 8 bolts, 4 in tension and 4 in shear, with an option for a 9th in the center. I'm not sure if I want to put that one in though since it will be taking a disproportionate amount of the load. The 8 bolts use the factory captured nuts, but the ones in tension have been reinforced with a 1/4 inch plate like the front range reinforcement. On a side note, it's fricken hard to find metric graded bolts around here. I had to special order those from Fastenal and all they had were those allen head bolts.

waskillywabbit · 06-12-2006, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robinhood150

There are a total of 8 bolts, 4 in tension and 4 in shear, with an option for a 9th in the center. I'm not sure if I want to put that one in though since it will be taking a disproportionate amount of the load. The 8 bolts use the factory captured nuts, but the ones in tension have been reinforced with a 1/4 inch plate like the front range reinforcement. On a side note, it's fricken hard to find metric graded bolts around here. I had to special order those from Fastenal and all they had were those allen head bolts.

Lockable hitch pin would do it I think and (8) bolts sounds good.

www.mcmastercarr.com has all the metric bolts you want and very fast delivery. Their website is top notch as well. I look there first for everything cause if they don't have it, nobody makes it.

They ROCK!

AxleIke · 06-12-2006, 10:11 AM

I am not sure how long you need, but i have seen many length hitch pins with the lockable ends.

That is really slick. Very, very nice.

Yotaboy · 06-12-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

Old dirty IFS:

Shiny new SFA:

Look at the pics, one truck is IFS and the other is SAS. Two trucks or one?

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotaboy

Look at the pics, one truck is IFS and the other is SAS. Two trucks or one?

As luck would have it, a side effect of building a front bumper is that it automatically converts you to SFA.

That is the whole point about me saying that he did an SAS at the same time as a bumper. :pat:

WSU4runner · 06-12-2006, 05:36 PM

Wow, your truck is coming along quickly! Looks great.

AH64ID · 06-12-2006, 05:53 PM

Looks great, and with that double pin setup you remove most of the things I dont like about multi-mounts, but keeping all the good points.

Hmm, front bumper requiring a SFA, I might need a new bumper... :-)

Marc P · 06-12-2006, 06:15 PM

Just like the rest of the truck...loving it!! Great job Steve

getitdone · 06-13-2006, 09:34 AM

Wow, I never wanted a multi mount winch untill just now. Very cool.

Does it have enough play in the mount to viberate or anything?

wrenchmonster · 06-13-2006, 10:17 AM

Awesome idea, great execution. Where did you get the bender? I've been looking at a similar one on Ebay. How did it work?

Also, the ONLY thing I'd change... and this is pure asthetics... would be to weld a small plate on the front bumper to cover up the hole of the receiver trough. It looks like it would just act like a scoop for mud and other debris.

BOSTON4RUNNER · 06-25-2006, 12:50 PM

I love the SFA..... www.SFAboston.com

garrett1478 · 06-30-2006, 07:39 PM

that is REALLY awesome!

did you make the winch tray or buy it like that?

06-11-2006, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChickenLover Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NV Posts: 2,583	That is freakin' awesome! Nice work. __________________ 95 4Runner, 3VZE , 141k, 4WD, Auto. (Head gaskets replaced at 106k)

06-12-2006, 02:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
rdharper Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 1,066	Very cool. I believe I see two different winch types. You could tie them together underneath the truck and give yourself a wedgie! Up too early here, so my sense of humor may be a bit warped. And besides, I sometimes seriously miss the winch on my '67 landcruiser. Nice job. __________________ Richard "Science by consensus... is not Science." Richard Harper -1988 '94 Toyota 4Runner V6 3L 158K miles 14mpg '85 Toyota 22rec 4WD SR5 LB PU 208K miles 18mpg '08 Honda Ridgeline RT 4.8K miles 16mpg '06 Honda Rincon ATV 410miles/65hrs 22 mpg

06-12-2006, 03:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,695	Wow, that came out really nice. That is the best idea for a multimount winch that I have ever seen. __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

06-12-2006, 03:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,695	Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper? Old dirty IFS: Shiny new SFA: __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

06-12-2006, 10:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 5,430	I am not sure how long you need, but i have seen many length hitch pins with the lockable ends. That is really slick. Very, very nice. __________________ Supercharged 1999 4Runner- Baby Beast 2, the mild mannered build-Link 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction\|Now on 35's-Parts truck-SOLD 1989 Project 4runner-The Redo-SOLD -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

06-11-2006, 11:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bob_98SR5 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,036	NICE, steve! can't wait to see it in person

06-12-2006, 03:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
bruzer1123 Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 329	Nice job! I really dig the design

06-12-2006, 04:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Banned Vendor Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 26,699	Looks very nice. Creative design. My first thought is theft. If it is that easy to take off, it might walk off (the winch). Second, I only counted (6) bolt holes holding the front bumper on and it looked like there would be (2) in tension and (4) in shear when exectuing a pull? Hard to tell what the (4) in tension are secured to? The IFS to SA swap in the pictures (mentioned above)...

06-12-2006, 05:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
WSU4runner Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 456	Wow, your truck is coming along quickly! Looks great. __________________ ~93 4Runner~ 33" MT/R's, fj80's in rear, and ball joint spacers in the front

06-12-2006, 05:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
AH64ID Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,653	Looks great, and with that double pin setup you remove most of the things I dont like about multi-mounts, but keeping all the good points. Hmm, front bumper requiring a SFA, I might need a new bumper... :-) __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

06-12-2006, 06:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Marc P Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,725	Just like the rest of the truck...loving it!! Great job Steve __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies-GONE 1998 4Runner--under constuction

06-13-2006, 09:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
getitdone Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ft. Collins, Co Posts: 987	Wow, I never wanted a multi mount winch untill just now. Very cool. Does it have enough play in the mount to viberate or anything? __________________ Chris Fischer 3D 85 4Runner SR5 \| 33" BFG M/T on flat black rims \| Chevy springs \| Custom Grab cage with overhead cb mount \| Custom fabbed center console \| Freshly rebuilt axle with IFS hub/caliper swap \| Rock Sliders \| Lots more... In Colorado, Dig. Last edited by getitdone; 06-13-2006 at 09:48 AM.

06-13-2006, 10:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
wrenchmonster Contributing Member Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 660	Awesome idea, great execution. Where did you get the bender? I've been looking at a similar one on Ebay. How did it work? Also, the ONLY thing I'd change... and this is pure asthetics... would be to weld a small plate on the front bumper to cover up the hole of the receiver trough. It looks like it would just act like a scoop for mud and other debris.

06-25-2006, 12:50 PM	#19 (permalink)
BOSTON4RUNNER Registered User Personal Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 797	I love the SFA..... www.SFAboston.com __________________ 2007 FJ Cruiser 6 speed, e lock, A Trac, 3 inch lift, TRD Struts, Rough Country Springs. www.sfaboston.net

06-30-2006, 07:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
garrett1478 Banned Vendor Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 0	that is REALLY awesome! did you make the winch tray or buy it like that?

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