Front tube bumper with multi mount winch

Robinhood150 · 06-11-2006, 11:24 PM

Ever since one particular snow run with my friend, I've wanted a multi mount winch. However, I knew the drawbacks too...I didn't want it sticking out too far. So I came up with a way to tuck the winch in as close as a normal winch bumper but yet still able to move it to the rear hitch. By the way, this is the first time any of us bent any tube. The bends came out surprisingly well.

I hot hitch material (sort of) and welded it to the winch mounting plate then fabbed a cradle to wrap around the mount. The winch mount sits in the cradle with 2 hitch pins securing it to the rest of the truck.

The winch slips in from the top.

Here's the finished product

To move it to the back I use 2x2 tube and slide it into the winch bracket.

And then just plug it into the hitch receiver in the rear.

I still need to get the wire and wire it all up.

Here are more pictures of the build up: http://www.robinhood4x4.com/gallery2/Front%20bumper/
This is best viewed with IE so you can see the thumbnails.

And yes, the tranny cooler will be moved.

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ChickenLover · 06-11-2006, 11:29 PM

That is freakin' awesome! Nice work.

Bob_98SR5 · 06-12-2006, 12:59 AM

NICE, steve! can't wait to see it in person

rdharper · 06-12-2006, 03:05 AM

Very cool. I believe I see two different winch types. You could tie them together underneath the truck and give yourself a wedgie!

Up too early here, so my sense of humor may be a bit warped. And besides, I sometimes seriously miss the winch on my '67 landcruiser.

Nice job.

bruzer1123 · 06-12-2006, 04:07 AM

Nice job! I really dig the design

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 04:55 AM

Wow, that came out really nice. That is the best idea for a multimount winch that I have ever seen.

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 04:58 AM

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

Old dirty IFS:

Shiny new SFA:

**waskillywabbit** · 06-12-2006, 05:09 AM

Looks very nice. Creative design.

My first thought is theft. If it is that easy to take off, it might walk off (the winch).

Second, I only counted (6) bolt holes holding the front bumper on and it looked like there would be (2) in tension and (4) in shear when exectuing a pull? Hard to tell what the (4) in tension are secured to?

The IFS to SA swap in the pictures (mentioned above)...

Robinhood150 · 06-12-2006, 10:01 AM

Thanks everyone.

Quote:

I believe I see two different winch types.

No that's the same winch, only 1.

Quote:

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

I don't know what you're talking about, it looks the same to me...

When I started the bumper, I wasn't planning on doing the SAS.

Brian, I've thought of the theft thing too. I'm going to see if anybody makes a lockable hitch pin that is long enough to clear everything. If not, then I'll figure something out.

There are a total of 8 bolts, 4 in tension and 4 in shear, with an option for a 9th in the center. I'm not sure if I want to put that one in though since it will be taking a disproportionate amount of the load. The 8 bolts use the factory captured nuts, but the ones in tension have been reinforced with a 1/4 inch plate like the front range reinforcement. On a side note, it's fricken hard to find metric graded bolts around here. I had to special order those from Fastenal and all they had were those allen head bolts.

**waskillywabbit** · 06-12-2006, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robinhood150

There are a total of 8 bolts, 4 in tension and 4 in shear, with an option for a 9th in the center. I'm not sure if I want to put that one in though since it will be taking a disproportionate amount of the load. The 8 bolts use the factory captured nuts, but the ones in tension have been reinforced with a 1/4 inch plate like the front range reinforcement. On a side note, it's fricken hard to find metric graded bolts around here. I had to special order those from Fastenal and all they had were those allen head bolts.

Lockable hitch pin would do it I think and (8) bolts sounds good.

www.mcmastercarr.com has all the metric bolts you want and very fast delivery. Their website is top notch as well. I look there first for everything cause if they don't have it, nobody makes it.

They ROCK!

AxleIke · 06-12-2006, 11:11 AM

I am not sure how long you need, but i have seen many length hitch pins with the lockable ends.

That is really slick. Very, very nice.

Yotaboy · 06-12-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrepid

Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper?

Old dirty IFS:

Shiny new SFA:

Look at the pics, one truck is IFS and the other is SAS. Two trucks or one?

Intrepid · 06-12-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotaboy

Look at the pics, one truck is IFS and the other is SAS. Two trucks or one?

As luck would have it, a side effect of building a front bumper is that it automatically converts you to SFA.

That is the whole point about me saying that he did an SAS at the same time as a bumper. :pat:

WSU4runner · 06-12-2006, 06:36 PM

Wow, your truck is coming along quickly! Looks great.

AH64ID · 06-12-2006, 06:53 PM

Looks great, and with that double pin setup you remove most of the things I dont like about multi-mounts, but keeping all the good points.

Hmm, front bumper requiring a SFA, I might need a new bumper... :-)

Marc P · 06-12-2006, 07:15 PM

Just like the rest of the truck...loving it!! Great job Steve

getitdone · 06-13-2006, 10:34 AM

Wow, I never wanted a multi mount winch untill just now. Very cool.

Does it have enough play in the mount to viberate or anything?

wrenchmonster · 06-13-2006, 11:17 AM

Awesome idea, great execution. Where did you get the bender? I've been looking at a similar one on Ebay. How did it work?

Also, the ONLY thing I'd change... and this is pure asthetics... would be to weld a small plate on the front bumper to cover up the hole of the receiver trough. It looks like it would just act like a scoop for mud and other debris.

BOSTON4RUNNER · 06-25-2006, 01:50 PM

I love the SFA..... www.SFAboston.com

garrett1478 · 06-30-2006, 08:39 PM

that is REALLY awesome!

did you make the winch tray or buy it like that?

Robinhood150 · 07-01-2006, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrenchmonster

Awesome idea, great execution. Where did you get the bender? I've been looking at a similar one on Ebay. How did it work?

Also, the ONLY thing I'd change... and this is pure asthetics... would be to weld a small plate on the front bumper to cover up the hole of the receiver trough. It looks like it would just act like a scoop for mud and other debris.

Can't do that...I'm making a bracket that plugs into the hole to hold my front license plate.

The winch plate came with the winch when I bought it from some guy. I'm not sure if it's the warn one or not. It was much bigger before though, I cut it down to the minimum.

**rocket** · 07-01-2006, 01:14 AM

Nice! I like it. How thick is the back plate?

I also want to know...

Quote:

Where did you get the bender?

tc · 07-01-2006, 06:55 AM

Ummm - as for the theft concerns, why not just pull it out and leave it in the garage and not drive around with all the extra weight?

I had a helluva time finding Metric grade 10.9 (similar to SAE 8), and ended up ordering them from Fastenal too. Did you spec 10.9 or 12.9 or "strongest Metric"? 10.9 are normal hex bolts, stronger grades are only available as socket head cap screws (allen bolts).

reggie 00 · 07-01-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robinhood150

Thanks everyone.

Brian, I've thought of the theft thing too. I'm going to see if anybody makes a lockable hitch pin that is long enough to clear everything. If not, then I'll figure something out.

Nice job, cant wait to see it later this month!

If you havent found a locking pin yet, my buddy owns a trailer/lineX/tractor shop, and i can probably get you one for cost. i just need to know the lenght/size and i can see if he can get me one or order it and i can bring it up to June lake and settle up with you then.

I got my winch from him and because of the size and i wanted versitility i wanted a mulitipoint set up, now i know exactly how to attack it.

Oh ya,
Quote:
Where did you get the bender?

Robinhood150 · 07-01-2006, 09:11 AM

The plate that actually bolts to the truck is 3/8" thick.

I did find a locking hitch pin at lowes the other day. Works like a charm. Thanks for the offer.

My plan was to leave the winch off when I didn't need it, but I've come to the conclusion that it just plain looks cooler with the winch there

. I ended up ordering the 12.9 grade.

The bender is my friends so I don't know where he got it. Probably from the usual places. It works well, we were impressed by how well the bumper came out. It looks damn near professional. We were a little surprised by how much force was required to bend the tube though. As you can see from the picture my friend is putting most of his weight into bending that 1.75" OD 1/8" th tube. But it's not bad.

06-11-2006, 11:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChickenLover Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NV Posts: 2,583	That is freakin' awesome! Nice work. __________________ 95 4Runner, 3VZE , 141k, 4WD, Auto. (Head gaskets replaced at 106k)

06-12-2006, 03:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
rdharper Contributing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 1,048	Very cool. I believe I see two different winch types. You could tie them together underneath the truck and give yourself a wedgie! Up too early here, so my sense of humor may be a bit warped. And besides, I sometimes seriously miss the winch on my '67 landcruiser. Nice job. __________________ Richard "Science by consensus... is not Science." Richard Harper -1988 '94 Toyota 4Runner V6 3L 158K miles 14mpg '85 Toyota 22rec 4WD SR5 LB PU 208K miles 18mpg '08 Honda Ridgeline RT 2.6K miles 16mpg '06 Honda Rincon ATV 410miles/65hrs 22 mpg

06-12-2006, 04:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	Wow, that came out really nice. That is the best idea for a multimount winch that I have ever seen. __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

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Intrepid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashburnham, MA Posts: 2,711	Is it just me or did the truck go from IFS to SFA while making this bumper? Old dirty IFS: Shiny new SFA: __________________ www.toyotacrawlers.com '85 4runner: 4.7's, FoxFab sliders, custom bumpers, 1" body lift, F-150 springs rear, lockright, welded third, IFS rear axle, 1.5" wheel spacers, high-steer, rears up front, Longs, 38" SX's on steelies, 12Voltguy dual battery, soft top, BMW seats. NO LONGER lacking an engine. :D :D

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waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,471	Looks very nice. Creative design. My first thought is theft. If it is that easy to take off, it might walk off (the winch). Second, I only counted (6) bolt holes holding the front bumper on and it looked like there would be (2) in tension and (4) in shear when exectuing a pull? Hard to tell what the (4) in tension are secured to? The IFS to SA swap in the pictures (mentioned above)... __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it.

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Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	NICE, steve! can't wait to see it in person

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bruzer1123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 337	Nice job! I really dig the design

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AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,848	I am not sure how long you need, but i have seen many length hitch pins with the lockable ends. That is really slick. Very, very nice. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner. -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail.

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AH64ID Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,637	Looks great, and with that double pin setup you remove most of the things I dont like about multi-mounts, but keeping all the good points. Hmm, front bumper requiring a SFA, I might need a new bumper... :-) __________________ -John '05 Dodge 3500 SRW 4x4 SLT 5.9 Cummins QC LB NV5600 6 Spd, Pricol EGT and boost, 2" Level, Jake Brake, Muffler Delete, filtered, lubed and bypassed by Amsoil, Mag-Hytec Rear, Fast Coolers, Baldwin 7977, Smarty JR SW#1, Toyo 285's... 2003 SR5 4Runner, V6 4WD. 1" cornfed lift Previous Toyota's '92 Red Truck NALA Speed doesn't kill, its the sudden stop that hurts.

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Marc P Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Santee, CA Posts: 2,736	Just like the rest of the truck...loving it!! Great job Steve __________________ 1995 4Runner---SAS with goodies

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getitdone Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ft. Collins, Co Posts: 1,006	Wow, I never wanted a multi mount winch untill just now. Very cool. Does it have enough play in the mount to viberate or anything? __________________ Chris Fischer 3D 85 4Runner SR5 \| 33" BFG M/T on flat black rims \| Chevy springs \| Custom Grab cage with overhead cb mount \| Custom fabbed center console \| Freshly rebuilt axle with IFS hub/caliper swap \| Rock Sliders \| Lots more... In Colorado, Dig. Last edited by getitdone; 06-13-2006 at 10:48 AM.

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wrenchmonster Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 660	Awesome idea, great execution. Where did you get the bender? I've been looking at a similar one on Ebay. How did it work? Also, the ONLY thing I'd change... and this is pure asthetics... would be to weld a small plate on the front bumper to cover up the hole of the receiver trough. It looks like it would just act like a scoop for mud and other debris.

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garrett1478 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 0	that is REALLY awesome! did you make the winch tray or buy it like that?

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tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,327	Ummm - as for the theft concerns, why not just pull it out and leave it in the garage and not drive around with all the extra weight? I had a helluva time finding Metric grade 10.9 (similar to SAE 8), and ended up ordering them from Fastenal too. Did you spec 10.9 or 12.9 or "strongest Metric"? 10.9 are normal hex bolts, stronger grades are only available as socket head cap screws (allen bolts). __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

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Robinhood150 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wandering around Phoenix Posts: 6,043	The plate that actually bolts to the truck is 3/8" thick. I did find a locking hitch pin at lowes the other day. Works like a charm. Thanks for the offer. My plan was to leave the winch off when I didn't need it, but I've come to the conclusion that it just plain looks cooler with the winch there . I ended up ordering the 12.9 grade. The bender is my friends so I don't know where he got it. Probably from the usual places. It works well, we were impressed by how well the bumper came out. It looks damn near professional. We were a little surprised by how much force was required to bend the tube though. As you can see from the picture my friend is putting most of his weight into bending that 1.75" OD 1/8" th tube. But it's not bad. __________________ Steve. '93 4Runner V6 Auto 4x4 Robinhood's Lair. \|\| Gettin' Off 4wd Club member Lots for sale:5.29 ARB IFS third member... Click Sierra Club policy: [A reason to close trails] ...Physical soil damage, often readily visible, resulting in: a. Erosion, causing soil loss and damage to stream banks, streams, and fish habitat... Lesson...Stay on the TRAIL!

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