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Old 01-13-2007, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pul-Pall alternatives?

I would like a winch anchor but there is no way I am spending the cash on a Pul-Pall, they are sweet but way overpriced IMO.

What other land anchor options are there? I know you can bury your spare but that is a LAST ditch resort. NWOR sells a "stake" type but I'm not sure how good (or safe) it is. I seem to remember one from the last SEMA show posted by Expeditions West maybe that looked decent.

So in short, what else is out there, how well does it work, how much does it cost and where did you get it?

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Old 01-13-2007, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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mayb a big sand boat anchor but i am not sure sorta the same princible
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Old 01-13-2007, 07:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would buy a 6 ft stake and dig it in at an angle then stand on it while i winched the truck and when i felt it move i would stop. now if your too far for your remote then well id put a big ass rock or the spare on top of the stake to be able to see it moving, or to catch the stake from flying into the windshield.
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mayb a big sand boat anchor but i am not sure sorta the same princible
That's a helluva idea - the action is exactly the same...

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Old 01-14-2007, 04:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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A Danforth boat anchor is the only thing I remember being mentioned as an alternative. I have never tried it but have used a Pull-Pal quite a bit. It kills me when I hear people call a product overpriced. How can it be when there is really nothing to compare it to?
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Pull-pals are great. Save and buy one and it will last a lifetime.
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A Danforth boat anchor is the only thing I remember being mentioned as an alternative. I have never tried it but have used a Pull-Pal quite a bit. It kills me when I hear people call a product overpriced. How can it be when there is really nothing to compare it to?
Well you must be dead then

Part of why it's overpriced is because there is no direct competition and probably won't be anytime soon due to patents and lawsuits. I would sooner bury my spare then spend that much. Like I said earlier, I live in Ohio, we have LOTS of trees and where there are no trees it's hard to get stuck but I wouldn't mine a $50-$100 anchor, just in case.
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Part of why it's overpriced is because there is no direct competition and probably won't be anytime soon due to patents and lawsuits. I would sooner bury my spare then spend that much. Like I said earlier, I live in Ohio, we have LOTS of trees and where there are no trees it's hard to get stuck but I wouldn't mine a $50-$100 anchor, just in case.
Okay...so it's not that it's overpriced just that you don't want to pay that much. That I can understand.

FWIW, they are great for what they are meant to do and if I ever needed something like that I would go Pull-pal. Mainly because I have experience with it.
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The only thing that will work like that is that.

I have used one and like it. I prefer using another rig.

What does one of the real things cost?

I too hate the price BS. Saying something is overpriced is different than saying you don't want to pay that. If you can do it better, and cheaper, then you can say it is overpriced.

Boat anchor idea looks a little sketch to me.
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they are awesome just seems possible to take some scrap steel and possibly make something similar they arent that complicated. And the whole overpriced thing is that when u can buy a cheap locker for not a whole lot more then a couple of pieces of steel. I think the argument is also because of how much it costs pul-pal to make the product.
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The one recomended for a 4Runner is $400 shipped. That is a lot of scratch!

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They claim it works in sand, mud, snow, sod, gravel/ash, whatever. It no doubt works good I'm sure.

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so the ลลลล is basically an anchor? i watched the video and i see how its worth it, like in the middle of a sand dune, snow field or mud pit in a meadow. but i also would think you could build one for like 100 bux
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That's what I mean. Yes it is sweet and one of those things that "saves the day" but so expensive. There must be a better alternitive for those of us who would rarely (if ever) need to use it but would like to be prepared in case we do.

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I have one of these:

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Cost < $100 IIRC. Tested it once to see how well it would worked. Surprisingly it has a tenacious hold. I've never used it in a real recovery situation and have found it not worth the weight to drag it around "just in case".

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^ I like that. Where can you buy one...link?
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Let me see if i can clear up a few things here...

When you build something yourself, your cost is your materials. So yes, you can build a pul-pal for 100 bucks

When you buy something from a company, your are paying for the materials, labor to build the thing (probably takes 3 to 4 hours to build the thing, at 80 or so an hour). So, even there, its just breaking even for them. They probably add a bit for profit.

You can do it cheaper because you get to rip off their idea and make your own. It'd take you much longer if you had to design and then build the thing, and so really, the difference is cost is their time vs your time.

Every one here always wants the best product they can buy for the smallest amount of money. Personally, I prefer to pay whatever it takes to make sure i've got a great product, that will never let me down, and never make me wish i hadn't bought it.
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^ I like that. Where can you buy one...link?
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I have the pull pal. In the southwest, where there are not too many trees, it can sure save you from a long, long hike. I have used it for recovery, and it worked great. What I really like about it is the ability to store it in compact spaces. yes, I paid quite a bit, but when your stuck, you will certainly wish you paid the price for it.

edit: While going up the San Francisco river in Clifton, AZ, I got stuck in the soft rocks and sand of the bank. The closest tree (mostly mosquite bushes) was about 150ft away. A pull pal in this situation is ideal. Trying to dig a hole for the spare tire would have been brutal. Lots of river rocks, sand and pretty darn hot. When forward progress is the only way, its well worth the money.

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