881stGenRunner

bump me this

cootees

The only problem with that is that no one makes a 3" lift for the front of ifs vehicles. To somewhat level it out you would need bj spacers(1.5") and to crank your torsion bars up which will then even more so limit your ifs flex capabilities.

881stGenRunner

i could also buy thicker torsion bars like sway-a-ways 25mm bars, but u agree teh athe all-pro springs woud be good

AxleIke

3 inch rear springs will give you about 1-2 inches of lift. first gen runners have a whole lot of butt sag. I have 3 inch springs with long shackels, and it sits level with bj spacers.

BJ spacers will start to destory steering.

cootees

Torsion bars don't have anything to do with it. You really only need to upgrade your t-bars if you are carrying a heavy winch & bumper. You can buy heavier torsion bars but it will still have the same amount of travel as the stock t-bars when you crank them up. The only difference you will notice is the stock ones are a smoother ride.

I know nothing about the all-pro springs. Do a search and I am sure yo uwill find something though.

881stGenRunner

aight man preash

881stGenRunner

u said that this set-up was no good? This was going to be my next proposal for what to do.

AxleIke

No, the set up is not good. Its about the best you can do for a lift with the ifs. I made that comment becasue a comment was made that a good flexy back was compensation for a no flex front. This is as good as it gets.

I wanted to run 33's, for ground clearance. I got BJ spacers, 3 inch springs, made my own shackles. I threw gears, locker, and limited slip at it. It is tearing itself apart. I also abuse it, so if you take it easy, you'll be fine.

It gets tippy. I don't notice it except when i'm leaning hard. It gets tippy.

The advantage of this set up: cost

I run 33x12.50's.
I have BJ spacers, shocks, and rear springs.
Total cost of the lift was under 500 bucks. I threw torsion bars at it later for extra weight up front, but it rode the same with the stockers.

881stGenRunner

can u show an actual pic of ur truck instead of the white and gray and show me where the steering is starting to go bad?

AxleIke

The idler arm has failed. Tierod has failed. Steering stabalizer has come apart. Not much else left to go wrong.

Here's what the set up looks like.

deathrunner

If you want your idler to be happy with BJ spacers, I suggest cranking in little to no lift. The angles that the steering arms run at when lift is cranked in is not very healthy. I believe that is what causes the steering failures associated with IFS. My LT kit keeps the arms pretty parallel to the ground and I have not had any issue with steering.

AxleIke

mine are relaxed to 1/2 inch above stock (to aleviate rubbing) It has a brace now, we'll see.

deathrunner

Cool pics, by the way

881stGenRunner

ya that looks good except for the rear being higher than the front in that first pic.

deathrunner

I like the butt a little higher, that's how I set my rig up too.

AxleIke

the rear is only about 1/4 to 1/2 inch higher. The picture is decieving. Parked in a level lot, it is barely noticeable. Keep in mind that i have longer than stock shackles. A 3 inch spring with stock shackles will not sit as high.

Blizzard

BJ Spacers + Low profile compression bumpstops are a good increase in IFS manners...

Pics from this weekend. Front wheel isn't fully extended yet.





David

deathrunner

Looks good David

881stGenRunner

dang thats a piss load of flex.

Blizzard

Another one, better one hehe (Don't look at the snorkel, I hit a tree with it hehehe)



David