aluminum v.s steel wheels
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aluminum v.s steel wheels
I currently have mickey thompson classic 2 wheels. Im gonna be putting on street lock simulation steel wheels. Theres queit a bit of weight differnce there but from your experience am i gonna notice power loss. Also is it any harder on my drivetrain when im 4 wheelin off road? Thanks guys
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You will probably get different responses, but here is my $0.02...
Steel wheels "felt" heavier to me when I was driving. It seemed a little more sluggish off the line. Don't know about drive train but one would think more weight at same distance and speed = more force, potential for more breakage.
When I went to 35's + steelies, I said, "Screw that. My wife would be SOL if she had to lift one of these things if she had a flat in my truck." Steels went away, got the micky thompsons. I'll never do steels again for either of my trucks.
Thats just my experience.
Steel wheels "felt" heavier to me when I was driving. It seemed a little more sluggish off the line. Don't know about drive train but one would think more weight at same distance and speed = more force, potential for more breakage.
When I went to 35's + steelies, I said, "Screw that. My wife would be SOL if she had to lift one of these things if she had a flat in my truck." Steels went away, got the micky thompsons. I'll never do steels again for either of my trucks.
Thats just my experience.
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Steelies are heavy....its a given. I ran them on my Wrangler, cherokee and will run them on my Toyota. You will notice a small differance. Why are you switching wheels? Just get th efake beadlock rings for your Mickeys.
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steel bends.... aluminum cracks and chips.... I'd rather not have an impossible flat on the trail and then have to throw my wheel out after , when I could smash it better again with a hammer instead.
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Well, aluminum can crack and chip, but i know many guys who run AL wheels, and its never happened. Not to say it won't, just that it's not too common.
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I agree. Steelies are fine and take trail abuse probably a little better. Meaning if you smack and BEND the lip, you can just bend it back. They are cheaper too and after said damage, just buy a new wheel. Aluminum rims are a little more pricey and just tossing them away is probably not a option. I run aluminum rims on my 35's because it's a 85% street duty truck, 15% offroad. Less rolling resistance and momentum makes it easier for stop and go. Granted it could only make a slight difference, but every little bit helps.
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tacoma750 im going to all black everything. Bumpers, rocksliders wheels and i just really like the streetlock wheels. I dont want to keep my aluminin wheels just because they arnt black. Im only going to steel because they are the only black wheels that i like. I just dont to get the wheels on my truck and wish i would have stuck with my mickeys because there lighter. i dont know what to do
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If you do want to stay with alloy wheels, check out the Pro Comp 7089s I just bought.
http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT64838.aspx
http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT64838.aspx
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Corey I do like those wheels. Will the fit the front with manual hubs. I really like the moto metal wheels out of all of them but my buddy bought some for his 91 yota and had them shipped to his house. he found out the hard way they arnt compatible with manual locking hubs
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Thanks, they were about the only aftermarket wheel I liked for the FJ, as I saw them on one a week prior to buying these.
When I saw his, I knew I had to get them.
The cap come off, so you should be able to use them with manual hubs.
Call up the place where I got them, they should be able to tell you.
I found out the Toyota FJ lugnuts for the alloy wheels and the 5 locks from Toyota would not work, I need acorn ones.
Here are the part #s you need.
21138 HT
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/products...image=6214.jpg
They come with a key, but it is not a locking key, it is just used to put them on and off.
And since Gorilla did not make a 5 pack of locks, Les Schwab placed a special order for me, and here is the 5 pack of locks.
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/products...image=5713.jpg
You would need the 12mm x 1.50
Part # 71431NBC for a set of 4.
When I saw his, I knew I had to get them.
The cap come off, so you should be able to use them with manual hubs.
Call up the place where I got them, they should be able to tell you.
I found out the Toyota FJ lugnuts for the alloy wheels and the 5 locks from Toyota would not work, I need acorn ones.
Here are the part #s you need.
21138 HT
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/products...image=6214.jpg
They come with a key, but it is not a locking key, it is just used to put them on and off.
And since Gorilla did not make a 5 pack of locks, Les Schwab placed a special order for me, and here is the 5 pack of locks.
http://www.gorilla-auto.com/products...image=5713.jpg
You would need the 12mm x 1.50
Part # 71431NBC for a set of 4.
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steelies are fun if youre into heavy wheels. they'll feel like you've regeared a notch higher with all that weight plus the weight of already heavy tires. plus, balancing will be alot more fun compared to alloys.
if you havent regeared and went with bigger tires, you WILL notice the power loss...
if you havent regeared and went with bigger tires, you WILL notice the power loss...
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I think you guys are missing something here:
Not all aluminum wheels are light. Forged aluminum wheels are light, but they're also VERY expensive. Cast aluminum wheels are not noticeably lighter than steel wheels, at all. Hell, the trailer-style steel wheels are very reasonable in weight in 15x10 sizes.....they're unbeatable for the cost (as they're replaceable without breaking the bank) and are very tough. Also, the comment about balancing......uh....the steel wheel vs. a cast aluminum wheel is going to be about the same in balancing...the cast might actually be a little worse if the density in certain locations is more than others.......
Either way, I say go with what you can afford.
-Mike (was in the sport compact scene for about 7 years, owned his fair share of alloys on high performance cars)
Not all aluminum wheels are light. Forged aluminum wheels are light, but they're also VERY expensive. Cast aluminum wheels are not noticeably lighter than steel wheels, at all. Hell, the trailer-style steel wheels are very reasonable in weight in 15x10 sizes.....they're unbeatable for the cost (as they're replaceable without breaking the bank) and are very tough. Also, the comment about balancing......uh....the steel wheel vs. a cast aluminum wheel is going to be about the same in balancing...the cast might actually be a little worse if the density in certain locations is more than others.......
Either way, I say go with what you can afford.
-Mike (was in the sport compact scene for about 7 years, owned his fair share of alloys on high performance cars)
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I've grinded all 4 of my wheels against the rocks on my steel wheels. Several of them have some very sharp splintered edges that can cut hands and fingers easily. So far, they have held up to some heavy abuse.
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Stronger than most steel wheels and have a much higher weight rating.
Fred
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I still have steel on my 4runner, I'm only 24, although I have been offraoding my whole life I havn't been the driver my whole life. I am sticking eith steel for the following reasons
1. I still make mistakes off roading and steel wheels can be banged back into place for the most part
2. If I destroy a steel wheel I can replace it quick and for little to no $$
3. Kinda like #2 they are alot cheeper to get into and replace
I'm not saying I suck at off roading I do it all the time in our 01 4runner with the new 17" 4runner alloys but in my 87 I keep it stock cause that's when I go with the boys and things get crazy.
1. I still make mistakes off roading and steel wheels can be banged back into place for the most part
2. If I destroy a steel wheel I can replace it quick and for little to no $$
3. Kinda like #2 they are alot cheeper to get into and replace
I'm not saying I suck at off roading I do it all the time in our 01 4runner with the new 17" 4runner alloys but in my 87 I keep it stock cause that's when I go with the boys and things get crazy.
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BTW Summitracing has regular steelies for like $35 or something..maybe $30 a peice. You said you like the streetlocks. JUST so you know, they NEVER stay clean. You can wash them, but the fake ring around the steelies keeps all the water/dirt/sand in there. Not good for the powdercoat on the steelies. Just my input becauee i ran those wheels on my wrangler. Ide never run them again, just because they were a pain in the ace to clean.
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