3rd Gen, increase rear articulation?
09-25-2003, 07:41 PM
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Mine never has on my 1997, and to be honest the only way is if the panhard bar was attached on the driver's side frame instead of the passenger side frame.
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09-25-2003, 08:00 PM
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I don't mean with the standard setup, but I mean going with even longer shocks than the OME's. Look back towards the beginning of the post and look at what Steve was talking about.
10-01-2003, 02:51 PM
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Sorry I'm late to this party but I would like to add my 2cents. I thought that dropping the panhard bar making it level with the axle fixed axle movment?
Which would bring us back to coils falling out which could be stoped a couple ways but the best would be some spring clamps to hold them down in place.
Then your back to shock and shock room
Did I forget anything?
I would asume that if you went too far you would need to start making longer control arms and what not?
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Which would bring us back to coils falling out which could be stoped a couple ways but the best would be some spring clamps to hold them down in place.
Then your back to shock and shock room
Did I forget anything?
I would asume that if you went too far you would need to start making longer control arms and what not?
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10-01-2003, 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Sorry- was at work when I posted that and couldn't remember which way it pulled. I'm just trying to figure out how the driveshaft hits the gas tank with longer shocks.
Sorry- was at work when I posted that and couldn't remember which way it pulled. I'm just trying to figure out how the driveshaft hits the gas tank with longer shocks.
Went all through this in 2001.
10-01-2003, 03:05 PM
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Actually, I should have qualified my statement a tad better. My statement is true when the passenger side tire is stuffed, but when the driver's side tire is stuffed it would bring it back towards the driver's side. Sorry guys!
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10-01-2003, 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by JDeMello
I thought that dropping the panhard bar making it level with the axle fixed axle movment?
I thought that dropping the panhard bar making it level with the axle fixed axle movment?
The only way around this is to move the gas tank to where the spare tire is. A 1995 Nissan Pathfider tank fits perfectly, it even has a skid plate on the bottom.
The other solution is a heavy duty gas tank skid, which works quite well and was much easier to impliment.
10-01-2003, 03:10 PM
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I'll have to take a picture of it, but I've yet to hit my 1997's gas tank with either tire stuffed. It's actually got a notch cut out of it to make room for it.
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10-01-2003, 03:20 PM
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Chris- true, but we're talking even longer shocks than what you've got on there right now.
Steve- thanks for the picture, I'm a "visual learner."
So, some "adjustment" with a BFH to the stock plate and tank is probably not the safest way of making more room for the driveshaft, huh?:pat:
Steve- thanks for the picture, I'm a "visual learner."
So, some "adjustment" with a BFH to the stock plate and tank is probably not the safest way of making more room for the driveshaft, huh?:pat:
10-01-2003, 03:22 PM
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So if the OMEN86 Firms aren't long enough and there are longer shocks to be had for the rear, is the gas tank the only thing preventing the increased rear suspension travel?
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10-01-2003, 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Steve- thanks for the picture, I'm a "visual learner."
So, some "adjustment" with a BFH to the stock plate and tank is probably not the safest way of making more room for the driveshaft, huh?:pat:
Steve- thanks for the picture, I'm a "visual learner."
So, some "adjustment" with a BFH to the stock plate and tank is probably not the safest way of making more room for the driveshaft, huh?:pat:
Hitting the gas tank with a hammer is going to do nothing more than waste your time. You have to move it entirely.
Unless you want to bash in a good 3-4".
Here is food for though. Call it good with the OME Prado shocks and make the front better. Imagine that, front travel. Ain't gonna happen with 881's.
10-01-2003, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by ravencr
So if the OMEN86 Firms aren't long enough and there are longer shocks to be had for the rear, is the gas tank the only thing preventing the increased rear suspension travel?
Chris
So if the OMEN86 Firms aren't long enough and there are longer shocks to be had for the rear, is the gas tank the only thing preventing the increased rear suspension travel?
Chris
10-01-2003, 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by sschaefer3
Try again, bushings will not push that far either.
Try again, bushings will not push that far either.
At any rate, so does this spidertrax company make something that would work then, assuming that the gas tank was taken care of? What about the length of the driveshaft?
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10-01-2003, 07:30 PM
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Steve,
In regards to working on the front flex- I'm working on it, including QD's, swapping out the stiff springs on the SAWS, and your "secret weapon," of which I"m still waiting to find out what that second part is.
In regards to working on the front flex- I'm working on it, including QD's, swapping out the stiff springs on the SAWS, and your "secret weapon," of which I"m still waiting to find out what that second part is.
10-01-2003, 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by sschaefer3
Yes it adjusts it back but you have a gas tank in the way. Toyota never intended the axle to travel as far as I/we/you would like it to. The Tacoma tank is completely different, you'll never have the issue with that vehicle.
The only way around this is to move the gas tank to where the spare tire is. A 1995 Nissan Pathfider tank fits perfectly, it even has a skid plate on the bottom.
The other solution is a heavy duty gas tank skid, which works quite well and was much easier to impliment.
Yes it adjusts it back but you have a gas tank in the way. Toyota never intended the axle to travel as far as I/we/you would like it to. The Tacoma tank is completely different, you'll never have the issue with that vehicle.
The only way around this is to move the gas tank to where the spare tire is. A 1995 Nissan Pathfider tank fits perfectly, it even has a skid plate on the bottom.
The other solution is a heavy duty gas tank skid, which works quite well and was much easier to impliment.
10-01-2003, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Steve,
In regards to working on the front flex- I'm working on it, including QD's, swapping out the stiff springs on the SAWS, and your "secret weapon," of which I"m still waiting to find out what that second part is.
Steve,
In regards to working on the front flex- I'm working on it, including QD's, swapping out the stiff springs on the SAWS, and your "secret weapon," of which I"m still waiting to find out what that second part is.
10-02-2003, 06:15 AM
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I've got the 675 PPI in there right now, so I'm thinking of going towards something closer to 600 and/or adding in a particular item that would allow me to put less tension on the spring and still get the same amount of lift.
10-02-2003, 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
I've got the 675 PPI in there right now, so I'm thinking of going towards something closer to 600 and/or adding in a particular item that would allow me to put less tension on the spring and still get the same amount of lift.
I've got the 675 PPI in there right now, so I'm thinking of going towards something closer to 600 and/or adding in a particular item that would allow me to put less tension on the spring and still get the same amount of lift.
