Yet ANOTHER key problem : Wont work in back gate, weird problem

Stegall984R · 08-20-2005, 07:26 PM

When i bought my runner, the dealer that I got it from told me it was a reposession. I verified this on the car fax report, and it had a clean history, so i didnt give any mind to it. However the key that came with the truck was a replacment cut key. The truck also did not come with a alarm remote, which I got on ebay no problem. The key I have however does not work in the rear tail gate. It wont open the gate or roll the window down. My truck was absoutly spotless so i dont think the latch is broken internanly.

Can any one verify weither or not their regular key versus a valet key will roll down the back window and unlock the tail gate ?

Let it be noted that the key I have will work the ignation, doors, and glove box. It will NOT however work the rear tail gate, unlock or window fuction, nor will it arm the alarm from locking the doors from the key. The alarm and keyless other wise works flawlessly. Also take note the tail gate handle works every time, and it locks/unlocks every time with the switch/keyfob keyless entry. The alarm is also the stock toyota alarm.

In your oponion do I have a valet key , or is my tail gate latch broken ?

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94x4 · 08-20-2005, 08:06 PM

I would'nt think that the latch would be broken, rather I'd think that the rear door takes a different key.

It could be that when they were rekeying it they "keyed" everything except the rear door, or..., the wiring harness connector is disconnected and you need to pop off the rear interior trim panel and take a look.

Stegall984R · 08-20-2005, 09:10 PM

no the key wont even turn in the cylinder.
the window works and the door lock works fine as lone as it operated by the key remote, or the switch on the door.

Godzilla · 08-20-2005, 10:07 PM

i was planning after work on monday to get a normal flat key cut to keep as a spare in my wallet in case of accidental lock out, so if i get it done ill post up and let you know if it works in the tailgate.

94x4 · 08-22-2005, 11:09 AM

Then it could indeed be that they overlooked the rear door lock when they were rekeying it after the repo.

I'd say contact the dealer you got it from about their putting you in touch with the locksmith that they used or have it done yourself.

L33T35T 4Runner · 08-22-2005, 11:50 AM

I had a couple spare keys made and many times those keys wont work in the back gate. The back gate cylinder is figity some times, doesnt like to work properly. it might just be that a copied key might be a little bit off so it wont work properly.

trd2001 · 08-22-2005, 12:31 PM

Maybe its a valet key?

L33T35T 4Runner · 08-22-2005, 07:45 PM

trd2001, cant be becuase he said it opens the glove box

ugadawg95 · 08-23-2005, 05:22 AM

Check the VIN on the tailgate and make sure it matches the VIN on the dash. I swapped tailgates and had to swap the cylinder to be able to use the keys I had so it would function with the new tailgate.

jimbojones75 · 08-23-2005, 06:29 AM

I have a similar issue in my 90, I have a "Toyota" key that opens drivers side and does ignition and I have a copied key that opens shotgun. My tailgate window didn't work until a couple weeks ago when I replaced the regulator and motor, I tried both keys and neither of them turn the cylinder. I left it at that for now because I am happy enough to have a gate window that works at all. I just keep my eyes open for a deal on a lock cylinder with a working key!

dusty98 · 09-09-2005, 05:48 PM

What was the final resolution on this?
I have the same problem on the 98 I just purchased. I had a valet key so I got two new keys cut from Toyota based on my VIN number. I can lock the glove box now, but no luck with the rear latch. Both new keys will go in, but the lock won't turn at all.
Hatch opens fine when the doors are unlocked and the window goes down fine from inside.

Thanks,
Phil

dusty98 · 05-03-2006, 07:26 PM

Here's an update on how I solved this:
Tonight I sprayed some silicon spray where the key goes and wiggled it several times (firmly, but not hard enough to break the key) and after a few times it started working. I"m guessing it was corroded or siezed for whatever reason.

I read somewhere on Yotatech about corroded locks so I figured I'd give it a try. Gotta love those easy fixes

08-22-2005, 11:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
L33T35T 4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fountain Valley, CA (so cali) Posts: 2,005	I had a couple spare keys made and many times those keys wont work in the back gate. The back gate cylinder is figity some times, doesnt like to work properly. it might just be that a copied key might be a little bit off so it wont work properly. __________________ 95 4Runner SR5 3.0l. V6 2 wheel drive baby! 31" Bridgeston Dueler A/T Revos. Downey 1.5 Coils. Doetsch MV-12 Shocks. Brembo Rotors. Performance Friction Pads. Pioneer head unit with 1 12" Pioneer woofer. XM Radio. RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars New to the family: 85 4Runner 22RE, 4x4, 5 spd, SFA. 31" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, genuine Walmart seat covers, "Dual" stereo, XM Radio, RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars. Onboard air. Has been seafoamed to hell

08-22-2005, 12:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
trd2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: home Posts: 28	Maybe its a valet key? __________________ 2005 4Runner Sport 4x4 v8 OME Lift, BFG At's

08-22-2005, 07:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
L33T35T 4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fountain Valley, CA (so cali) Posts: 2,005	trd2001, cant be becuase he said it opens the glove box __________________ 95 4Runner SR5 3.0l. V6 2 wheel drive baby! 31" Bridgeston Dueler A/T Revos. Downey 1.5 Coils. Doetsch MV-12 Shocks. Brembo Rotors. Performance Friction Pads. Pioneer head unit with 1 12" Pioneer woofer. XM Radio. RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars New to the family: 85 4Runner 22RE, 4x4, 5 spd, SFA. 31" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, genuine Walmart seat covers, "Dual" stereo, XM Radio, RB Headlight Harness w/ Sylvania SilverStars. Onboard air. Has been seafoamed to hell

08-23-2005, 05:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
ugadawg95 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bethlehem, GA Posts: 1,072	Check the VIN on the tailgate and make sure it matches the VIN on the dash. I swapped tailgates and had to swap the cylinder to be able to use the keys I had so it would function with the new tailgate. __________________ Stephen SOLD! 99 4Runner Limited, Jade Mica. 08 4Runner Urban Runner Edition 4wd. Blizzard Pearl White...Let the mods begin!

09-09-2005, 05:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
dusty98 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: stuart, fl Posts: 273	What was the final resolution on this? I have the same problem on the 98 I just purchased. I had a valet key so I got two new keys cut from Toyota based on my VIN number. I can lock the glove box now, but no luck with the rear latch. Both new keys will go in, but the lock won't turn at all. Hatch opens fine when the doors are unlocked and the window goes down fine from inside. Thanks, Phil __________________ 98 4Runner SR5 4WD, Desert Dune Revos, Custom mounted Hella 550s, Yakima Rack 99 Corolla, 38mpg.

08-20-2005, 08:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
94x4 Guest Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,429	I would'nt think that the latch would be broken, rather I'd think that the rear door takes a different key. It could be that when they were rekeying it they "keyed" everything except the rear door, or..., the wiring harness connector is disconnected and you need to pop off the rear interior trim panel and take a look.

08-20-2005, 09:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stegall984R Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: OmG, Hi2U !!! .... DANG, my chic's got some SEXY eyes.... among other things. WOOT WOOT !! Posts: 720	no the key wont even turn in the cylinder. the window works and the door lock works fine as lone as it operated by the key remote, or the switch on the door.

08-20-2005, 10:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Godzilla Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,151	i was planning after work on monday to get a normal flat key cut to keep as a spare in my wallet in case of accidental lock out, so if i get it done ill post up and let you know if it works in the tailgate.

08-22-2005, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
94x4 Guest Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,429	Then it could indeed be that they overlooked the rear door lock when they were rekeying it after the repo. I'd say contact the dealer you got it from about their putting you in touch with the locksmith that they used or have it done yourself.

08-23-2005, 06:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
jimbojones75 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Halifax, NS Canada Posts: 72	I have a similar issue in my 90, I have a "Toyota" key that opens drivers side and does ignition and I have a copied key that opens shotgun. My tailgate window didn't work until a couple weeks ago when I replaced the regulator and motor, I tried both keys and neither of them turn the cylinder. I left it at that for now because I am happy enough to have a gate window that works at all. I just keep my eyes open for a deal on a lock cylinder with a working key!

05-03-2006, 07:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
dusty98 Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: stuart, fl Posts: 273	Here's an update on how I solved this: Tonight I sprayed some silicon spray where the key goes and wiggled it several times (firmly, but not hard enough to break the key) and after a few times it started working. I"m guessing it was corroded or siezed for whatever reason. I read somewhere on Yotatech about corroded locks so I figured I'd give it a try. Gotta love those easy fixes __________________ 98 4Runner SR5 4WD, Desert Dune Revos, Custom mounted Hella 550s, Yakima Rack 99 Corolla, 38mpg.

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