New K&N Kit Installed (Pics & Vid)

psraff · 02-23-2008, 08:26 PM

Hey everyone... Had a deal I couldn't pass up. Got a K&N FIPK for $177 yesterday. Got it installed and so far I love it. It does what it claims and I have no regrets. I've tossed it around on what kind of intake to go for, and well... this just kept coming to the front of the list. Here's some pics. I'll need some zip ties to clean up a coule of things, but you get the idea.

Here's the vid to watch the gauges and listen to the new sound....

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toylocost · 02-23-2008, 09:06 PM

Can you feel a differance in power?

psraff · 02-23-2008, 09:51 PM

Yes, I can. Driving around town there's no sound difference, but now I only need to feather the gas to get around. I don't have to push the gas near as much as I used to when on 4 lane roads and I need to pass someone to change lanes. I would like to say that it pulls me back in the seat more when I put my foot in it more as well. The roads are just clearing now so I didn't do any WOT much before this upgrade. Roads were too icy and it was too dangerous.

I didn't buy it for the sound, but I tell you what, it sounds great! I can tell the engine likes the increase of air. Now if someone would like to donate an exhause from the headers on back, I bet the engine would really love me!

Really though, I wanted to connect a G-Tech to my Runner stock and after this upgrade to get some numbers, but like I said the roads have been real icy this past month and I'm not going to screw around.

Installation was easy. Even if you never turned a wrench the instructions they provided were dead on. I even did it in the dark last night.

2000t4rAKS · 02-23-2008, 10:06 PM

Congrats Shannon, I was thinking of getting a Volant myself. But you are definitely right about the cost though, that is a really good price. I was thinking of getting a Volant with a Magnaflow exhaust to see if I can get some pep. I know the Volant is a BOX, yours is not. I was wondering if you knew if it made a difference. Volant claims that it will keep hot engine air out of the intake. Your seems wide open and I would assume that it would suck in more air from all angles and not just the wheel well.

fo_runner · 02-23-2008, 10:13 PM

Nice intake, i went to through the cheaper route to get my intake done with similar results; DP and ISR that is.

psraff · 02-23-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000t4rAKS

Congrats Shannon, I was thinking of getting a Volant myself. But you are definitely right about the cost though, that is a really good price. I was thinking of getting a Volant with a Magnaflow exhaust to see if I can get some pep. I know the Volant is a BOX, yours is not. I was wondering if you knew if it made a difference. Volant claims that it will keep hot engine air out of the intake. Your seems wide open and I would assume that it would suck in more air from all angles and not just the wheel well.

I was thinking the Volant as well for those same exact reasons... But after thinking about it (and the cost again.. hehehe) the Volant gets its air from the same hole in the fender as OEM, right? So will you get that much MORE air? I have no idea if you will or not, but I wouldn't THINK so. This shield is up against the hood when it's closed so the top is pretty sealed. The bottom is pretty tight against the wheelwell as well. I would love to find a way to get some temp sensers in there and see just what the temp is. Something I'll look at tomorrow is if there is a shot of air coming in from the grill (near the headlight) that will keep a higher pressure within the shield to keep the engine heat out some. Again, I have no idea. I've been super busy today to really sit back and look at it.

4rnr4nick · 02-23-2008, 11:06 PM

wow sounds EXACTLY like mine before i got the vortex muffler installed...i thought it sounded great...but TRUST ME, you HAVE to get a new muffler or exhaust setup!

i noticed a big throttle response difference when i installed mine

2000t4rAKS · 02-23-2008, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

I was thinking the Volant as well for those same exact reasons... But after thinking about it (and the cost again.. hehehe) the Volant gets its air from the same hole in the fender as OEM, right? So will you get that much MORE air? I have no idea if you will or not, but I wouldn't THINK so. This shield is up against the hood when it's closed so the top is pretty sealed. The bottom is pretty tight against the wheelwell as well. I would love to find a way to get some temp sensers in there and see just what the temp is. Something I'll look at tomorrow is if there is a shot of air coming in from the grill (near the headlight) that will keep a higher pressure within the shield to keep the engine heat out some. Again, I have no idea. I've been super busy today to really sit back and look at it.

I guess someone that has a Volant on here can chime in. From what you have described, it seems like the Volant is getting the same amount of air as the OEM box. In terms of your K&N, it seems to seal pretty tight with that rubber edge against the hood. I am just impressed to see that its getting air from all directions. If you do find out, please keep me posted. Thanks.

X-AWDriver · 02-24-2008, 05:12 AM

You won't notice any different in power from a GTech meter since 7-8whp won't even show up at the strip and I know since I've drag raced my 4Runner with the airbox stock and then with the deckplate installed. (or hole in the airbox)

The "power" you are feeling is the improved throttle response since you got rid of the convaluted intake tube.

It also doesn't matter how big of the surface of the air filter is since you can only pull in so much air into the intake tube since that didn't change size.

Those intakes make no more horsepower on a 3rd gen then the deckplate mod does and this has been dyno proven many times but they do look better when you open the hood.

dirtoyboy · 02-24-2008, 05:58 AM

177 bucks?

thats e-spensive....

psraff · 02-24-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

Those intakes make no more horsepower on a 3rd gen then the deckplate mod does and this has been dyno proven many times

Right after I got my '99 I posted a thread asking for people who Dynoed their rigs stock and after upgrades. Not a single person spoke up. There's a lot of knowledge on this site and I like being here, but everyone use the words "feels like", "seems to be", or "sounds like" when it comes to performance upgrades to their trucks. I looked around and there isn't a dyno locally. I would have to go up to Anchorage to do it. The best option I had was going to a local shop. They use a G-Tech to get a baseline and then again after upgrades are done. I know it wont be exact, but at least their numbers. I couldn't do it because it's winter time and finding a dry patch of road is out of the question to do the runs.

dirtoyboy · 02-24-2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

Right after I got my '99 I posted a thread asking for people who Dynoed their rigs stock and after upgrades. Not a single person spoke up. There's a lot of knowledge on this site and I like being here, but everyone use the words "feels like", "seems to be", or "sounds like" when it comes to performance upgrades to their trucks. I looked around and there isn't a dyno locally. I would have to go up to Anchorage to do it. The best option I had was going to a local shop. They use a G-Tech to get a baseline and then again after upgrades are done. I know it wont be exact, but at least their numbers. I couldn't do it because it's winter time and finding a dry patch of road is out of the question to do the runs.

I usually use one of these>>>

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...products_id=41

psraff · 02-24-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtoyboy

I usually use one of these>>>

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...products_id=41

OH GOD HELP US! LOLOL

Jdizzydub · 02-25-2008, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

Right after I got my '99 I posted a thread asking for people who Dynoed their rigs stock and after upgrades. Not a single person spoke up. There's a lot of knowledge on this site and I like being here, but everyone use the words "feels like", "seems to be", or "sounds like" when it comes to performance upgrades to their trucks. I looked around and there isn't a dyno locally. I would have to go up to Anchorage to do it. The best option I had was going to a local shop. They use a G-Tech to get a baseline and then again after upgrades are done. I know it wont be exact, but at least their numbers. I couldn't do it because it's winter time and finding a dry patch of road is out of the question to do the runs.

x2 on trying to find those dyno results, couldn't find them myself either. It may have been a tad more expensive route than the DP (to some people-but we're also all guilty of modding our rigs to our liking). Throttle response or not IMHO it is a sweet set-up and does add a different look under the hood.

PSRAFF-Nice to see yourockin the K&N and finally get it done, it looks good..I actually think I got a different model or something, cus mine looks different.

Jdizzydub · 02-25-2008, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4rnr4nick

wow sounds EXACTLY like mine before i got the vortex muffler installed...i thought it sounded great...but TRUST ME, you HAVE to get a new muffler or exhaust setup!

i noticed a big throttle response difference when i installed mine

GO VORTEX!!

psraff · 02-25-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdizzydub

GO VORTEX!!

I crawled under my truck yesterday to just have a look around. Wouldn't you know it that my exhaust is rock solid!

Now I have to come up with another excuse to upgrade.

Really though, I have to slow down. I have to get my rear bumper taken care of and wheels and tires for it real soon (I only have winter tires on stock wheels right now)

As for upgrades that I don't need, I see fog lights and I would like to find some fender flares for it. I would like to strip the chrome off of my truck plus protect my body a little more so if I could find some flares from a limited to put on here that would be great. I'm sure everyone tries to scoop those up though.

X-AWDriver · 02-25-2008, 08:36 AM

I guess I didn't see the request but here's Gadget's site and he's got numbers comparing intakes and filters on this page and this is a pretty popular referance site for SC'd Runners also and has been for a few years.

http://www.gadgetonline.com/AirInduction.htm

Fo_SheeZy · 02-25-2008, 09:32 AM

Looks great man, I have been meaning for quite sometime to take some pics of my Volant Cold Air Intake, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

2000t4rAKS · 02-25-2008, 10:04 PM

Fo_Sheezy,

Please post the pics of your Volant Cold Air Intake whenever you get a chance. I was thinking of getting one in the near future.

ARB1977 · 02-26-2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

Hey everyone... Had a deal I couldn't pass up. Got a K&N FIPK for $177 yesterday. Got it installed and so far I love it. It does what it claims and I have no regrets. I've tossed it around on what kind of intake to go for, and well... this just kept coming to the front of the list. Here's some pics. I'll need some zip ties to clean up a coule of things, but you get the idea.

I bet sound fast now...could of saved some coin and done a deckplate mod thats more practical.

Fo_SheeZy · 02-26-2008, 02:25 PM

Speedy · 02-26-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

I guess I didn't see the request but here's Gadget's site and he's got numbers comparing intakes and filters on this page and this is a pretty popular referance site for SC'd Runners also and has been for a few years.

http://www.gadgetonline.com/AirInduction.htm

Hmmm, this shows a net LOSS in HP with a K&N FIPK. Surprising.

psraff · 02-26-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARB1977

I bet sound fast now...could of saved some coin and done a deckplate mod thats more practical.

Could have. Even have a deckplate to do it. But didn't want to.

psraff · 02-26-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy

Hmmm, this shows a net LOSS in HP with a K&N FIPK. Surprising.

With the kit, I got a dyno sheet showing before and after installation on a '01 Tacoma 3.4L, Auto 2WD2G. Shows a 9.45hp increase. Also came with a Horsepower Guaranteed Sheet. I'll scan both and post for people to see.

Everyone will end up with different results one way or another. I really wish I had the chance to dyno before and after but again... none are close by. Down in the 48, there should be one in almost every major city. On that one link it was attached to a Supercharger, right? Maybe the owner can forward that to K&N and see what they have to say for themselves. It would be great to get K&N and Amsoil to do some independant testing on each others products and see what they come up with (like that would ever happen, but...)

Speedy · 02-26-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psraff

With the kit, I got a dyno sheet showing before and after installation on a '01 Tacoma 3.4L, Auto 2WD2G. Shows a 9.45hp increase. Also came with a Horsepower Guaranteed Sheet. I'll scan both and post for people to see.

Everyone will end up with different results one way or another. I really wish I had the chance to dyno before and after but again... none are close by. Down in the 48, there should be one in almost every major city. On that one link it was attached to a Supercharger, right? Maybe the owner can forward that to K&N and see what they have to say for themselves. It would be great to get K&N and Amsoil to do some independant testing on each others products and see what they come up with (like that would ever happen, but...)

I have a dyno right down the street. I'm planning on a dyno run soon. I've got the deckplate and ISR mod. I'm probably going to just go with a True Flow drop in filter.

I dyno tested an Amsoil, K&N, and Stock filter on my 1999 Tacoma 4x4 TRD 5spd as well as the deck plate mod. All were within 1-2hp of each other. However having the deck plate opened added 11HP to the mid range vs. closed with stock filter. I have the dyno runs as proof as well.

02-23-2008, 09:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
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psraff Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kenai, Alaska Posts: 346	Yes, I can. Driving around town there's no sound difference, but now I only need to feather the gas to get around. I don't have to push the gas near as much as I used to when on 4 lane roads and I need to pass someone to change lanes. I would like to say that it pulls me back in the seat more when I put my foot in it more as well. The roads are just clearing now so I didn't do any WOT much before this upgrade. Roads were too icy and it was too dangerous. I didn't buy it for the sound, but I tell you what, it sounds great! I can tell the engine likes the increase of air. Now if someone would like to donate an exhause from the headers on back, I bet the engine would really love me! Really though, I wanted to connect a G-Tech to my Runner stock and after this upgrade to get some numbers, but like I said the roads have been real icy this past month and I'm not going to screw around. Installation was easy. Even if you never turned a wrench the instructions they provided were dead on. I even did it in the dark last night. __________________ *Shannon Rafferty* '99 Runner SR5 Kenai, Alaska Done: E-Locker mod \| Scion Stereo \| K&N FIPK \| Nitto Terra Grappler 265/75R16 \| Pro Comp Xtreme Alloy Series 7089 \| Huculined bumpers \| Tint \| Flex-a-lite Fans \| ScanGaugeII \| LightForce 170s \| Smoked LED Tail Lights \| VHT Nightshade \| Tranny Cooler To Be Done: Lift kit \| Front and Rear Bumpers \| Sliders Profile & Pics of my '99 4Runner CarDomain Profile: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3304961

02-23-2008, 10:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
2000t4rAKS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 292	Congrats Shannon, I was thinking of getting a Volant myself. But you are definitely right about the cost though, that is a really good price. I was thinking of getting a Volant with a Magnaflow exhaust to see if I can get some pep. I know the Volant is a BOX, yours is not. I was wondering if you knew if it made a difference. Volant claims that it will keep hot engine air out of the intake. Your seems wide open and I would assume that it would suck in more air from all angles and not just the wheel well. __________________ 2000 4Runner Limited 4x4 Kenwood DNX7100 HU Alpine SPR-17S Component Speakers

02-24-2008, 05:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	You won't notice any different in power from a GTech meter since 7-8whp won't even show up at the strip and I know since I've drag raced my 4Runner with the airbox stock and then with the deckplate installed. (or hole in the airbox) The "power" you are feeling is the improved throttle response since you got rid of the convaluted intake tube. It also doesn't matter how big of the surface of the air filter is since you can only pull in so much air into the intake tube since that didn't change size. Those intakes make no more horsepower on a 3rd gen then the deckplate mod does and this has been dyno proven many times but they do look better when you open the hood. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

02-25-2008, 08:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	I guess I didn't see the request but here's Gadget's site and he's got numbers comparing intakes and filters on this page and this is a pretty popular referance site for SC'd Runners also and has been for a few years. http://www.gadgetonline.com/AirInduction.htm __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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fo_runner Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto,Canada Posts: 361	Nice intake, i went to through the cheaper route to get my intake done with similar results; DP and ISR that is.

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4rnr4nick Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 81	wow sounds EXACTLY like mine before i got the vortex muffler installed...i thought it sounded great...but TRUST ME, you HAVE to get a new muffler or exhaust setup! i noticed a big throttle response difference when i installed mine

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Fo_SheeZy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 1,598	Looks great man, I have been meaning for quite sometime to take some pics of my Volant Cold Air Intake, but haven't gotten around to it yet. __________________ *Check out my 2008 Urban 4Runner on CarDomain!!* http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3108855 http://www.myspace.com/bmplayar

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2000t4rAKS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 292	Fo_Sheezy, Please post the pics of your Volant Cold Air Intake whenever you get a chance. I was thinking of getting one in the near future. __________________ 2000 4Runner Limited 4x4 Kenwood DNX7100 HU Alpine SPR-17S Component Speakers

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